Will "high velocity" be the next anti-gun boogeyman?

[Ex-California]

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... source=fbb

"As a doctor, I feel I have a duty to inform the public of what I have learned as I have observed these wounds and cared for these patients. It’s clear to me that AR-15 or other high-velocity weapons, especially when outfitted with a high-capacity magazine, have no place in a civilian’s gun cabinet....Banning the AR-15 should not be a partisan issue. While there may be no consensus on many questions of gun control, there seems to be broad support for removing high-velocity, lethal weaponry and high-capacity magazines from the market, which would drastically reduce the incidence of mass murders."

While the .223 round (most common AR15 round) may have a relatively high velocity, the energy carried by the bullet is what causes the damage. Nearly all common hunting rounds, which no anti gun people seem to have a problem with, carry much more energy at the same range as the .223 round.

This article is built on a faulty premise and misunderstanding of basic ballistics

I bet “high velocity” is going to be the new talking point here

For example
http://gundata.org/blog/post/223-ballistics-chart/
http://gundata.org/blog/post/30-06-ballistics-chart/
http://gundata.org/blog/post/270-win-ballistics-chart/

[BjornP]

This article is built on a faulty premise and misunderstanding of basic ballistics

Since every facet of every fact, statement and commonly held beliefs are "fake news" anyway these days, I'm not sure wether to determine wether you or the radiologist is the fake news. Do you do ballistics analysis or otherwise work in a related field for a living?

[Ex-California]

This article is built on a faulty premise and misunderstanding of basic ballistics

Since every facet of every fact, statement and commonly held beliefs are "fake news" anyway these days, I'm not sure wether to determine wether you or the radiologist is the fake news. Do you do ballistics analysis or otherwise work in a related field for a living?

Maybe I should have used "physics"

The energy carried by a bullet is what kills, not the velocity

[clubgop]

This article is built on a faulty premise and misunderstanding of basic ballistics

Since every facet of every fact, statement and commonly held beliefs are "fake news" anyway these days, I'm not sure wether to determine wether you or the radiologist is the fake news. Do you do ballistics analysis or otherwise work in a related field for a living?

It's not fake news she is just describing every single rifle round ever. The AR 15 or 223 round is nothing special. Gun grabbers give it this mythical aurora that drive some of these sales. It is the Honda Civic or Toyota Camry of rifles. Not the ideal for any one purpose but good enough for all of them.

[Speaker to Animals]

Kinetic energy.

k = 0.5 * m * v^2

Velocity is a component in that. Yeah, it kills. A ping pong ball accelerated to a sufficient velocity can kill too.

The statement is silly, though. There are other factors that make one round more deadly than others. It's not just kinetic energy by fragmentation and some other factors I am not too educated on since I am not a ballistics expert.

[Speaker to Animals]

I mean.. if you really want to go for maximum carnage, wouldn't you want to go with something like a Saiga-12 with a huge drum magazine?

[BjornP]

Could it be he is dumbing things down for the reading audience, rather than being intentionally misleading for political reasons? Anyway, I suck at physics, but I seem to remember that the mass of an object increases the faster it travels (which is why falling from a twenty story building kills while falling off your chair doesn't). (StA covered it before I could post, I see).

Of course, wether one cares or wether that or that gun, rifle, shotgun, etc. can increase the mass of a bullet through higher velocities, is another matter.

[Speaker to Animals]

It's more a situation stemming from the fact that people in the natural sciences are a fucking laughing stock to people in the physical sciences when they attempt to express things mathematically.

[BjornP]

When I was a kid, me and the kids in my apartment block at New Year's Eve would pour gunpowder from fireworks into any sort of re-sealable cylinder we could find. Best thing was that one of the kids had these spent rifle shells that we'd pour the gunpowder into and hammer back together. Apply that to larger metal cylinders, and add some metal shards into the mix and voila: Mass murder... at a discount. Could probably make gas or incendiary grenades with a little bit of research.

I tell ya, kids these days are too lazy to do proper mass murder.

[Fife]

Lulz, "velocity."

The world is so scientifically illiterate, hell, just so illiterate in every way, that any cracker bullshit artist with a degree can throw some "velocity" mumbo jumbo about 5.56 NATO out there and get mad clicks.