Can I Have Your Attention Please, Something Is Wrong!
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Can I Have Your Attention Please, Something Is Wrong!
Exhibit A: War Machine
In real life, as it was for McMahon in the film, the fallout for McChrystal was swift. The day after the story leaked, Obama summoned the general to the White House, where he offered his resignation. “The conduct represented in the recently published article does not meet the standard that should be set by a commanding general,” Obama explained to the public. “It undermines the civilian control of the military that is at the core of our democratic system.”
http://time.com/4792280/war-machine-netflix-brad-pitt/
The past 15 years of American war in Afghanistan, Iraq, and elsewhere have brought the public several incarnations of a very particular media archetype: the übermensch general.
The narration feels downright scoldy at times, lecturing the audience on how the real message of McMahon’s story is not the general’s own failings but the unwinnability of the war in Afghanistan—a point that would be better taken if most of the movie weren’t devoted to establishing the general as a deluded doofus.
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/movi ... iewed.html
Exhibit B: CNN Report On The Mystery of Michael Flynn
-Flynn Facts
-commentators include such luminaries as James Clapper.
This is a coordinated, never before seen, propaganda attack against JSOC and the last generation of Generals who were schooled in traditional American ideas.
What confuses me though...if Gen Flynn flipped on Trump and figures to be a star witness, why would CNN run a news piece attacking his character, particularly accusing him of making up "Flynn Facts"?
In real life, as it was for McMahon in the film, the fallout for McChrystal was swift. The day after the story leaked, Obama summoned the general to the White House, where he offered his resignation. “The conduct represented in the recently published article does not meet the standard that should be set by a commanding general,” Obama explained to the public. “It undermines the civilian control of the military that is at the core of our democratic system.”
http://time.com/4792280/war-machine-netflix-brad-pitt/
The past 15 years of American war in Afghanistan, Iraq, and elsewhere have brought the public several incarnations of a very particular media archetype: the übermensch general.
The narration feels downright scoldy at times, lecturing the audience on how the real message of McMahon’s story is not the general’s own failings but the unwinnability of the war in Afghanistan—a point that would be better taken if most of the movie weren’t devoted to establishing the general as a deluded doofus.
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/movi ... iewed.html
Exhibit B: CNN Report On The Mystery of Michael Flynn
-Flynn Facts
-commentators include such luminaries as James Clapper.
This is a coordinated, never before seen, propaganda attack against JSOC and the last generation of Generals who were schooled in traditional American ideas.
What confuses me though...if Gen Flynn flipped on Trump and figures to be a star witness, why would CNN run a news piece attacking his character, particularly accusing him of making up "Flynn Facts"?
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Re: Can I Have Your Attention Please, Something Is Wrong!
The most upsetting thing to me is that people use words like "scoldy" in fairly prominent publications.
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Re: Can I Have Your Attention Please, Something Is Wrong!
Thread title is JUST A BIT over the top.
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That's debatable.GrumpyCatFace wrote:Thread title is JUST A BIT over the top.
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Re: Can I Have Your Attention Please, Something Is Wrong!
Can I get a quick rundown?
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Flynn had to be destroyed because he told the truth about Al Qaeda and Obama Administrations Iran-Contra type operation in Syria that led to ISIS.
Here's an article from 2015 that lays a lot of this out
https://www.rt.com/usa/312050-dia-flynn-islamic-state/
Flynn was head of the Defense Intel Agency, the military cousin to the CIA and NSA. Flynn stepped on a lot of toes telling the truth. Had the US media been working in the interest of the US people they would have jumped on this and it would have brought down powerful people, Obama, Clinton, the Gang of Eight guys like McCain, Clapper, Brenan, Comey. So they burned him. They are still exacting revenge on Flynn. It may be more important to them to utterly destroy Flynn than even Trump.
Here's an article from 2015 that lays a lot of this out
https://www.rt.com/usa/312050-dia-flynn-islamic-state/
Flynn was head of the Defense Intel Agency, the military cousin to the CIA and NSA. Flynn stepped on a lot of toes telling the truth. Had the US media been working in the interest of the US people they would have jumped on this and it would have brought down powerful people, Obama, Clinton, the Gang of Eight guys like McCain, Clapper, Brenan, Comey. So they burned him. They are still exacting revenge on Flynn. It may be more important to them to utterly destroy Flynn than even Trump.
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Re: Can I Have Your Attention Please, Something Is Wrong!
I'm pretty sure Flynn was the general that was leaking info to AJ about gun running in Syria and Libya.
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There were a lot of military folks pissed about it, could have been any of them. Might have been Flynn or his subordinates.TheReal_ND wrote:I'm pretty sure Flynn was the general that was leaking info to AJ about gun running in Syria and Libya.
Hey, we had an Iran-Contra, but the press ran cover for the Admin. I'll tell you what really failed here, was the gang of 8. I actually hold McCain the most responsible in all of this. He was knee deep in it.
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Re: Can I Have Your Attention Please, Something Is Wrong!
JSOC has become such a leviathan now, probably not a bad thing to undermine it, it's like a mini CIA and it's not even that mini.
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We need a deep cleaning in a lot of areas. I'm not aware of these types of issues in JSOC, but it wouldn't surprise me. It works hand in hand with the Intel Community and they have proven to be politically corrupt.Smitty-48 wrote:JSOC has become such a leviathan now, probably not a bad thing to undermine it, it's like a mini CIA and it's not even that mini.
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