White House official calls for ending Social Security numbers as means of identification

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White House official calls for ending Social Security numbers as means of identification

Post by The Conservative » Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:34 pm

http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity ... ty-numbers
White House official calls for ending Social Security numbers as means of identification
This should be interesting... especially with how everything is digital today... will anything they come up with really be more secure?
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Re: White House official calls for ending Social Security numbers as means of identification

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:40 pm

It was already illegal. People made a stink about it in the early 90s, but there wasn't enough traction to make the government enforce the law. If it's legal now, Congress had to have amended the law. The law used to explicitly forbid using those numbers for identification. There was some heat in the 1930s because Protestants believe that stuff in Revelations is set in the future, so assigning numbers to people was a problem.

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Re: White House official calls for ending Social Security numbers as means of identification

Post by The Conservative » Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:42 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:It was already illegal. People made a stink about it in the early 90s, but there wasn't enough traction to make the government enforce the law. If it's legal now, Congress had to have amended the law. The law used to explicitly forbid using those numbers for identification. There was some heat in the 1930s because Protestants believe that stuff in Revelations is set in the future, so assigning numbers to people was a problem.
Seriously? When you sign up for anything such as gas or electricity they demand your SS. Why else do you think you are giving it?
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Re: White House official calls for ending Social Security numbers as means of identification

Post by Fife » Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:10 pm

Eliminating SSNs seems like a good start.

To eliminating SS.

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Re: White House official calls for ending Social Security numbers as means of identification

Post by The Conservative » Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:19 pm

Fife wrote:Eliminating SSNs seems like a good start.

To eliminating SS.
It's a start, but we will require a lot more to make it happen, such as taking care of where the money goes or not...
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Re: White House official calls for ending Social Security numbers as means of identification

Post by clubgop » Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:27 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:It was already illegal. People made a stink about it in the early 90s, but there wasn't enough traction to make the government enforce the law. If it's legal now, Congress had to have amended the law. The law used to explicitly forbid using those numbers for identification. There was some heat in the 1930s because Protestants believe that stuff in Revelations is set in the future, so assigning numbers to people was a problem.
Seriously? When you sign up for anything such as gas or electricity they demand your SS. Why else do you think you are giving it?
The original intention was for SS and no other purpose.

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Re: White House official calls for ending Social Security numbers as means of identification

Post by SilverEagle » Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:30 pm

Fife wrote:Eliminating SSNs seems like a good start.

To eliminating SS.
Good luck defending that to the folks that put money into that system, by force, and telling them tough titties. End welfare and crack down on SS disability abusers first. Here is an example for you, I have several rental homes and one couple that rents from us are both on disability. Both are in their early fifties and they both could physically work IMO and most likely yours as well. Yet they are bringing in a combined $2,700 a month and get fucking food stamps.
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Re: White House official calls for ending Social Security numbers as means of identification

Post by The Conservative » Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:22 pm

clubgop wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:It was already illegal. People made a stink about it in the early 90s, but there wasn't enough traction to make the government enforce the law. If it's legal now, Congress had to have amended the law. The law used to explicitly forbid using those numbers for identification. There was some heat in the 1930s because Protestants believe that stuff in Revelations is set in the future, so assigning numbers to people was a problem.
Seriously? When you sign up for anything such as gas or electricity they demand your SS. Why else do you think you are giving it?
The original intention was for SS and no other purpose.
Yeah, it was... it's not what it is today... today our credit scores, our gas and electricity, our houses, and almost everything to do with money is connected to our SS. Including our taxes... so to say it is illegal to use it any other way but its original purpose is like saying that rain is wet and the sun is hot. Duh... no shit Sherlock, but that's not what it has become.
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Re: White House official calls for ending Social Security numbers as means of identification

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:01 pm

The Conservative wrote:
clubgop wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
Seriously? When you sign up for anything such as gas or electricity they demand your SS. Why else do you think you are giving it?
The original intention was for SS and no other purpose.
Yeah, it was... it's not what it is today... today our credit scores, our gas and electricity, our houses, and almost everything to do with money is connected to our SS. Including our taxes... so to say it is illegal to use it any other way but its original purpose is like saying that rain is wet and the sun is hot. Duh... no shit Sherlock, but that's not what it has become.

Unless Congress amended the law since the 90s, it's been illegal now for about 90 years (since the New Deal) Just because the federal government refuses to enforce the law does not make something legal.

The older cards used to even explicitly state on them it is illegal to use them for identification.

The only lawful use for social security numbers is for social security.

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Re: White House official calls for ending Social Security numbers as means of identification

Post by The Conservative » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:34 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
clubgop wrote:
The original intention was for SS and no other purpose.
Yeah, it was... it's not what it is today... today our credit scores, our gas and electricity, our houses, and almost everything to do with money is connected to our SS. Including our taxes... so to say it is illegal to use it any other way but its original purpose is like saying that rain is wet and the sun is hot. Duh... no shit Sherlock, but that's not what it has become.

Unless Congress amended the law since the 90s, it's been illegal now for about 90 years (since the New Deal) Just because the federal government refuses to enforce the law does not make something legal.

The older cards used to even explicitly state on them it is illegal to use them for identification.

The only lawful use for social security numbers is for social security.
Sign up for gas or electricity without your SS. Tell me how it works.
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