America vs the rest of the world. What would happen?

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America vs the rest of the world. What would happen?

Post by jediuser598 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:00 pm

So, I profess, I'm not the most informed when it comes to the military. On Tuesday nights me and a few buddies get together and they're all military, and they keep bringing up this article by "We Are The Mighty." Here it is:
What would happen if the U.S. found itself facing off against the rest of the world? Not just its traditional rivals, but what if it had to fight off its allies like the United Kingdom, France, and South Korea as well?

In short, America would stomp them. Especially if it pulled back to the continental U.S. and made its stand there.

First, the U.S. has the world’s largest Navy, by a lot. With ships displacing 3,415,893 tons, the mass of the U.S. Navy is larger than the next 8 largest navies combined. And the American ships, as a whole, are more technologically advanced than those of other countries. For instance, only America and France field nuclear-powered aircraft carriers. France has just one while America has 10 with an 11th on the way.*
And that’s before the U.S. Coast Guard gets into the mix. While the Coast Guard isn’t an expeditionary force, it could use its C-130s and other sensor platforms to give the Navy more eyes across the battlespace. It’s counterterrorism operators could protect government leaders and secure American ports.
http://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/ ... -the-world

What do you guys think? If today, both in a scenario with/without nukes, that America/the rest of the world were against each other in a total war?
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Re: America vs the rest of the world. What would happen?

Post by Ex-California » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:06 pm

This is exactly what I always say.

Whenever people are crowing about Trump offending the rest of the world I simply remind them of this fact. Make the New World fortress America, and we win. The only thing I worry about is a latent Dead Hand from the former USSR
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Re: America vs the rest of the world. What would happen?

Post by Martin Hash » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:27 pm

The rest of the world wouldn't be able to raise an army, Western Europeans are way past the pussy curve. The States would only be able to get maybe two-thirds of its young men to draft, but another third of Conservative women would too. Asia could draft, and Eastern Europe. Africa, India & South/Central America would be worthless. (This is my personal opinion from traveling.)
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Post by nmoore63 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:29 pm

The US navy wouldn't count for very much.

Navies are too slow, too stationary, too expensive, take too long to build.

Everyone's navy would be wiped out.

The next great war will involve such massive increases in cybernetics and drones that the current wooden boats and planes stuff won't matter for very long.

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Post by Martin Hash » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:32 pm

I watch those whom-vs-who videos by the Russian guy on YouTube; Navies & long range aircraft are essential for staging. If the Navy can get the armament there fast enough, the other side will be fighting on their home turf. (I'm no expert, I just watch shit.)
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:34 pm

Air Force plus Army is faster than the USN, in general.

Carrier groups allow you to stage pretty much anywhere without risking much, though. For the USAF to do it, we need to setup airbases nearby, which requires the Army to get in there along with our Red Horse troops to establish the thing and build (which they can actually do really quickly), but that means you are more committed than if you just park some ships offshore.

In a sense, that whole carrier group mentality is a kind of pussy curve mentality as you described earlier. It makes things worse because politicians think they can fuck around without commitment, and at the same time, we don't really commit like we should when really need to do so.
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Re: America vs the rest of the world. What would happen?

Post by Fife » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:37 pm

California wrote:This is exactly what I always say.

Whenever people are crowing about Trump offending the rest of the world I simply remind them of this fact. Make the New World fortress America, and we win. The only thing I worry about is a latent Dead Hand from the former USSR
The only problem is Fortress America puts the leeches at the Pentagon and their clients out of business. Not allowable.

Those people at the Pentagon make money by making you think it is important to strive to know what kind of underwear the Kims in Korea and Vlad Putin have on today; and cousin, business is a-boomin!

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:45 pm

Also, we could just recall most of the battle-hardened troops who separated recently. We basically had a 15 year stretch of constant warfare hardening our troops while the main body of millennials became massive faggots. Those veterans give our nation a huge advantage in a world war. Furthermore, even the massive faggots of that generation can be turned around. Look at the difference between boomer veterans and the typical boomer hippie/yuppie. I think a lot of those betas have needed military service all along in order to detoxify themselves of the marxism and find themselves.

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Post by Ph64 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:45 pm

Without nukes we'd need to reinstate the draft probably, but the US would kick ass.

With nukes, IMHO, we might still kick ass but I'm not sure you'd like the remains of the country after.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:48 pm

Ph64 wrote:Without nukes we'd need to reinstate the draft probably, but the US would kick ass.

With nukes, IMHO, we might still kick ass but I'm not sure you'd like the remains of the country after.

The sad truth is that a nuclear exchange might actually fix our problems pretty fast. Think about it. Most of the cities and all the liberals would evaporate up into mushroom clouds. It would just be red districts left.