Real Talk About Fake News - God Says Putin Is Bad

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Real Talk About Fake News - God Says Putin Is Bad

Post by kybkh » Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:22 am

9/11 was my introduction to current foreign affairs. Following the attacks, I watched cable news probably 30 of the 48 hours that followed. Then came the Af/Pk War and I have this memory seared in my brain of waiting up til past midnight EST just to see what Paki PM Musharraf had to say about our invasion. I was waiting to hear if we were about to get embroiled in a war with a nuclear armed country. I never had anxiety like that about geopolitical conflict before. For months the news footage and "reporting" concerning the war and the GWoT came at you like an already edited movie. Everything was going as planned.

By mid 2002 we had normalized to our new reality of war against some Muslim and increased "security" (surveillance) at home. I was ready to get back on with life. I tuned out. I was still very anti-war but whats the difference between fighting in Iraq or Af/Pk to a 20 something year old college student. Herey, therey, samey, samey.



I picked back up in 2005 when I got my first FWM job at a TV station doing remedial accounting work that required less than 4 true hours of work a week. It was real nice. I had a TV in my office and unfettered access to the internet. I was still mainly a Bloomberg/CNBC type but I'd watch Hardball because CM was the loudest MSM critical voice re:GWoT at that moment. That also happened to be the same year 'Loose Change' was let loose in the interwebs and the birth of Fake News.

OCTOBER 27, 2005
How Can News Media Recover Public Trust?


https://www.c-span.org/video/?189604-1/ ... blic-trust

Loose Change was a taught page turner. All the pieces for a terrific spy novel. And it was the first piece of fake news propaganda to spread across social media platforms like MySpace. Falling down the rabbit hole of conspiracy on Youtube in 2005 was as easy as typing "temperature metal melts". Next thing you know you'd be hearing about Project MKUltra, the obvious crookedness of the Federal Reserve, the CIA back Iranian Revolution, babies in incubators, Project Mocking Bird, etc, etc... I credit the DCF for helping to pull me from that abyss in 2007-08. By then however we were in the midst of a full blown financial panic and the"conspiracies" seemed even more obvious than before and my mind had already been tilled by the true accounts of our covert CIA operations of the mid to late twentieth century.

Bush had already destroyed the US Govt's credibility with most folks. It had become obvious that Iraq was a fool's errand and the WMD red herring was ripe with stench. So, when the Govt went about covering all of Wall Street's bad bets after just pissing down our backs and telling us it was raining in Iraq, the teapot of distrust with our political leaders and the MSM started to boil over.

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This was the breaking point.

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I started paying attention to Russia for the first time following the Georgian War. Up until that moment I was surprised by how well we seemed to be getting along with Russia. They were helping us with logistics in the the GWoT. We were doing military exercises together. There seemed to be absolutely zero chance of a military conflict. I have come to realize that our relationship was less rosy as it seemed but it was obviously better than today by a great margin.

With McCain bellowing for military conflict with Russia which almost certainly would have resulted in a full scale nuclear war I was getting anxious again like in 2002. So I began trying to gain perspective of this nation, who I am being told by people I do not trust, is the "enemy". I started looking at Pravda.ru and tass.com. I knew these were pure propaganda sites, but I was curious about what they were saying because it might provide some insight on how close nuclear war really was.

By 2012, if you were a card carrying Paul-bot like me, there is certain level of collusion that you believe already exist within our own govt and private entities and you probably sought out reporting which confirmed your anti-war/collusion opinions. Russia saw this meme developing and RT.com started promoting Ron Paul and other anti-intervention political figures and stories. Obviously, this would be in Russia's interest. It doesn't make all the reporting they did re:MENA or the financial system to be false. It simply means they were doing selective editing as I am guessing many news sources have done in the past (see video above 19:00-23:00).

Let's fast forward to our current timeline. Right now, these people I don't trust are telling me Trump is a racist...

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And Russia is our mortal enemy who colluded with Trump during an election to undermine American Democracy...

9/11 a 'turning point' for Putin

MOSCOW, Russia (CNN) -- Within hours of the attacks on New York and Washington, Russian President Vladimir Putin was on the phone to George W. Bush -- the first international leader to call the U.S. president on September 11.

http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europ ... index.html



Now this from the never Trumpers...Notice how no specifics are given. Not facts, proof, or evidence to support this assertion that we are at war with Russia. This would be dangerous if the nation actually believed any of these people. This is just a heard of cats trying to cover their own shit.

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Re: Real Talk About Fake News - God Says Putin Is Bad

Post by TheReal_ND » Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:10 am

Quick rundown pls

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Re: Real Talk About Fake News - God Says Putin Is Bad

Post by kybkh » Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:49 am

Nukedog wrote:Quick rundown pls
You mother fucker. I spend 2 hours on my employer's dime typing this shit out and you want a TLDR?

QRD = The reason RT and all the Pizzagate attacks on HRC and the US Govt have effect is because the US Govt has proven themselves to be totally untrustworthy. The "fake news" that bothers the Swamp People the most are the ugly truths about US foreign policy and the financial system which RT places prominently on their site.

At the end of the day, this is all a con and once the trust is gone the con will collapse. This is what we are seeing today. Trust is the sole reason why Hillary Clinton lost. Anyone could say anything about her and so few people trusted her she was defenseless.

A new CNN/ORC poll released Tuesday shows that 50% of registered voters consider Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump “more honest and trustworthy,” versus 35% who said the same about Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... linton-15/

The most important skill for any con artist is the ability to lie with complete confidence. People generally feel uncomfortable lying, and they assume that others share their reluctance to fabricate. For this reason, the average person finds it difficult to dismiss a false statement delivered with absolute authority.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-art-o ... le/2001643

If the US Govt had not been so inept over the last 3 decades none of this RT shit would matter.

And the Morgan Freeman video really pisses me off.
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Re: Real Talk About Fake News - God Says Putin Is Bad

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:02 am

Can we get a suma of the tldr?

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Re: Real Talk About Fake News - God Says Putin Is Bad

Post by DBTrek » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:05 am

THAT is an impressive fucking effort.

No idea what the upshot of that wall of text was, but there were graphics, there was video, clean paragraph breaks, it had it all! Beautiful form.

Well done!
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Re: Real Talk About Fake News - God Says Putin Is Bad

Post by kybkh » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:05 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:Can we get a suma of the tldr?
Here ya go cuck-a-roo!

If the US Govt had not been so inept over the last 3 decades none of this RT shit would matter.

And the Morgan Freeman video really pisses me off.
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Re: Real Talk About Fake News - God Says Putin Is Bad

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:10 am

The Morgan Freeman video got me really excited for Based Putin, honestly. Freeman makes Putin out to be an even greater man than he really is.

Freeman is going to have a huge let-down when he discovers the truth. I am not saying Putin is like the Mandarin or anything, but he's not quite as awesome as Freeman described there.

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Re: Real Talk About Fake News - God Says Putin Is Bad

Post by Fife » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:11 am

Morgan Freeman is a tool.

The cool thing about the Two Minutes Hate in 2017 is that the Party can re-program it in real time, literally like every two minutes.

Government schooling + smartphones are ascendant and transcendental.

Producing the autistic screeching is as easy for them now as Pavlov a-ringing his bell.



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Re: Real Talk About Fake News - God Says Putin Is Bad

Post by TheReal_ND » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:14 am

DBTrek wrote:THAT is an impressive fucking effort.

No idea what the upshot of that wall of text was, but there were graphics, there was video, clean paragraph breaks, it had it all! Beautiful form.

Well done!
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Re: Real Talk About Fake News - God Says Putin Is Bad

Post by kybkh » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:18 am

DBTrek wrote:THAT is an impressive fucking effort.

No idea what the upshot of that wall of text was, but there were graphics, there was video, clean paragraph breaks, it had it all! Beautiful form.

Well done!
Look you can all just blow me. I try to entertain you fucks by using my personal experience to explain the evolution of fake news. I attempted to tie it in to the evolution of the internet but the scope is just too big for me to be willing to type it all out.

The unasked question which is begging to be asked is if Russia truly influenced this election, what made that possible? The answer is to uncomfortable to Swamp People so they just keep saying Pizzagate and Facebook ads. That's not what did the damage. The circumstantial evidence concerning her emails, Goldman Sach speeches, her blood lust, Libya and the Clinton Foundation all had a far greater impact on the results of the election than anything Russia fabricated because there is a total lack of trust.

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