The current crop of left wing debaters is weak

[Hwen Hoshino]

Was this typical for the Dan Carlin forum as well?

[Dand]

It was the same quality but drtrech meant that there were 10x the shitposts.

[SuburbanFarmer]

I don't think anyone on the new MHF is particularly "left wing" in the first place - depending of course, on whether you mean socially or economically Left.

We had avowed socialists, and a commie on the DCF (and an outright fascist). The range here is more like Center-Left to Hard-Right, with some Trailer Parliament sprinkled about. I don't think anyone here is particularly Socially Left.

[Martin Hash]

SJWs don't debate, they preach & disdain. This is an unmoderated Debate forum, as was DCF; folks who show no self-awareness get piled on and leave.

There's also something else going on: if you're a Trump-hater, you don't tend to debate at all, you just go away. With the rise of the Alt-Right in response to SJWs, Lefty-leaners who aren't adversarial won't participate. That's on them but I do miss debating other non-SJW topics, such as science & relationships that don't have anything to do with Identity politics.

[SuburbanFarmer]

SJWs don't debate, they preach & disdain. This is an unmoderated Debate forum, as was DCF; folks who show no self-awareness get piled on and leave.

There's also something else going on: if you're a Trump-hater, you don't tend to debate at all, you just go away. With the rise of the Alt-Right in response to SJWs, Lefty-leaners who aren't adversarial won't participate. That's on them but I do miss debating other non-SJW topics, such as science & relationships that don't have anything to do with Identity politics.

Well, I'm a Trump-hater, and I ain't going anywhere.

I miss discussing non-Muslim and non-SJW topics, too. Kinda sad that everything has to revolve around that now.

[DBTrek]

Sad.

[Ex-California]

I don't think anyone on the new MHF is particularly "left wing" in the first place - depending of course, on whether you mean socially or economically Left.

We had avowed socialists, and a commie on the DCF (and an outright fascist). The range here is more like Center-Left to Hard-Right, with some Trailer Parliament sprinkled about. I don't think anyone here is particularly Socially Left.

A real SJW would be triggered the fuck out here to the point of suicide and then Dr. Hash would have to shut the forum down after xir family complained of bullying

I used to be way more Left but lingering thoughts that I've always held, combined with current events, hanging out at the DCF and here, and people like Dan Carlin and Dave Rubin got me to realize that the current Left is too far away from the classically liberal values I actually hold.

I then also realized that the latent thoughts of socialism I held simply would never work; they are utopian and unrealistic.

[Speaker to Animals]

Pretty sure he wouldn't shut it down for that. He's too old with too much Go Fuck Yourself money to care.

Also, we'd police ourselves if somebody were really trying to drive another to suicide. We already had state troopers busting down one guy's door for threatening it.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Also, we'd police ourselves if somebody were really trying to drive another to suicide. We already had state troopers busting down one guy's door for threatening it.

Whoa really?

[Speaker to Animals]

Also, we'd police ourselves if somebody were really trying to drive another to suicide. We already had state troopers busting down one guy's door for threatening it.

Whoa really?

Really.

edit: for threatening suicide, not trying to coerce somebody else to commit suicide.