8values - Where do you stand?

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8values - Where do you stand?

Post by Hastur » Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:59 am

We did something like this on the old forum.

Try this: https://8values.github.io/
What is 8values?
8values is, in essence, a political quiz that attempts to assign percentages for eight different political values. You will be presented by a statement, and then you will answer with your opinion on the statement, from Strongly Agree to Strongly Disagree, with each answer slightly affecting your scores. At the end of the quiz, your answers will be compared to the maximum possible for each value, thus giving you a percentage. Answer honestly!
What are the eight values?
There are four indendent axes - Economic, Diplomatic, State, and Society - and each has two opposing values assigned to them. They are:
Equality (Economic)
Those with higher Equality scores believe the economy should distribute value evenly among the populace. They tend to support progressive tax codes, social programs, and at high values, socialism.
Wealth (Economic)
Those with higher Wealth scores believe the economy should be focused on rapid growth. They tend to support lower taxes, privatization, deregulation, and at high values, laissez-faire capitalism.
Might (Diplomatic)
Those with higher Might scores believe in an aggressive, or hawkish, foreign policy. They tend to support high military spending, nationalism, rivalry with other countries, and at high values, rapid military expansion.
Peace (Diplomatic)
Those with higher Peace scores believe in an peaceful, or dovish, foreign policy. They tend to support low military spending, international aid, cooperation with other countries, and at high values, pacifism.
Liberty (State)
Those with higher Liberty scores believe in strong civil liberties. They tend to support democracy and oppose state intervention in personal lives. Note that this refers to civil liberties, not economic liberties.
Authority (State)
Those with higher Authority scores believe in strong state power. They tend to support state intervention in personal lives, government surveillance, and at high values, censorship or autocracy.
Tradition (Society)
Those with higher Tradition scores believe in traditional values and strict adherence to a moral code. Though not always, they are usually religious, and support the status quo or the status quo ante.
Progress (Society)
Those with higher Progress scores believe in social change and rationality. Though not always, they are usually secular or atheist, and support environmental action and scientific or technological research.
My result was a bit surprising. I didn't like how some of the questions were worded. They seem to assume everyone is American.

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Re: 8values - Where do you stand?

Post by Xenophon » Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:11 am

https://8values.github.io/results.html? ... 6.7&s=31.4

About the same as the political compass test.

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Re: 8values - Where do you stand?

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:50 am

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Re: 8values - Where do you stand?

Post by DBTrek » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:56 am

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Of course it's going to say liberalism. If you look at the results I'm pretty well balanced except for a streak of anti-authoritarianism.
Look at the Civil (Liberty/Authority) axis. This is where they first assign me the "Liberal" moniker. Why? Because I'm for smaller government, less government interference, less government power, etc. Because I'm anti-authoritarian. Thus, since I stand for pretty much everything American liberals are against, they conclude "Hey man, you're a proponent of liberalism".
:doh:

What a boondoggle.
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Re: 8values - Where do you stand?

Post by Ex-California » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:30 am

Liberalism

Although I'm pretty sure I could figure out how to make this test give me any answer I want

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Re: 8values - Where do you stand?

Post by BjornP » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:41 am

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Re: 8values - Where do you stand?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:49 am

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Interesting wording on a few of those, but I guess the broad strokes fit.
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Re: 8values - Where do you stand?

Post by Fife » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:09 am

Oh goody, another bullshit quiz. What kind of axis has "equality" on one side and "capitalism" on the other? How about "statism" and "freedom?"

When I said that I'm against abortion, I probably got 150 "authoritarian" points. :shifty:

There were a ton of false dichotomies, ambiguities, or just wrong-sounding questions.

I answered "neutral" to all these losers:

Military action by our nation is often necessary to protect it.

"Often?"

It is more important to retain peaceful relations than to further our strength.

Let's do both, in the right proportion.

Wars do not need to be justified to other countries.

Maybe, maybe not.


Military spending is a waste of money.

National defense is a public good; we waste money like drunken sailors to buy it.

My nation is the best in the world.

At what?

Research should be conducted on an international scale.

All data should be considered; the opinion of a French scientist might be worthless, or counter-productive.

Governments should be accountable to the international community.

For what? War, or carbon offsets?

A strongly hierarchical state is most efficient.

At what?


Reason is more important than maintaining our culture.

Non sequitur.


Same-sex marriage should be legal.

No marriage should be "legal."


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Re: 8values - Where do you stand?

Post by BjornP » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:12 am

What was that European Union question meant to represent? Liberty/Authority? Or Progressive/Tradition?
DB wrote:Thus, since I stand for pretty much everything American liberals are against, they conclude "Hey man, you're a proponent of liberalism
Looks like they're operating with the classical or traditional understanding of the word "liberal".
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Re: 8values - Where do you stand?

Post by Hastur » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:16 am

Also the question if My Country being the best in the world. Surely, what country I live in should be relevant to my position. If I think Somalia is the best county in the world must place me in a different spot to if I think Sweden is, or China.
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