North Korea - The nation state equivalent to the short bus

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North Korea - The nation state equivalent to the short bus

Post by SilverEagle » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:22 am

There is a time for good men to do bad things.

For fuck sake, 1984 is NOT an instruction manual!

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Post by TheReal_ND » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:07 am

The North’s KCNA news agency said on Sunday the engine would help the country achieve world-class satellite-launch capability – indicating a new type of rocket engine for an intercontinental ballistic missile
These fuckers are going to win a space race victory :splody:

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Post by SilverEagle » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:26 pm

Honestly I think China has had about enough of them at this point. I doubt they seriously would attack the USA or South Korea because there is no way they could win. Their cities would be leveled before their first missile entered US air space, if they made it at all.
There is a time for good men to do bad things.

For fuck sake, 1984 is NOT an instruction manual!

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:28 pm

Yeah, I doubt China wants to deal with fallout from a nuclear strike just south of their border.

I wish they'd just annex the place and make it some kind of semi-autonomous region.

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Post by ssu » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:31 pm

SilverEagle wrote:Honestly I think China has had about enough of them at this point. I doubt they seriously would attack the USA or South Korea because there is no way they could win. Their cities would be leveled before their first missile entered US air space, if they made it at all.
They can be pretty sure that the US won't attack them at this point.

Clinton really thought about bombing them when they were going with their nuclear program. The estimate of casualties gave him cold feet. And so did the Iraq invading Bush get cold feet too.

Now they have those nukes and are trying to miniaturize the weapons in order to make multi-warhead ICBMs.

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Post by SilverEagle » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:35 pm

ssu wrote:
SilverEagle wrote:Honestly I think China has had about enough of them at this point. I doubt they seriously would attack the USA or South Korea because there is no way they could win. Their cities would be leveled before their first missile entered US air space, if they made it at all.
They can be pretty sure that the US won't attack them at this point.

Clinton really thought about bombing them when they were going with their nuclear program. The estimate of casualties gave him cold feet. And so did the Iraq invading Bush get cold feet too.

Now they have those nukes and are trying to miniaturize the weapons in order to make multi-warhead ICBMs.
So is it better to take them out now? The reason I ask is while Fat boy most likely would not do it, you better believe a Kim further down the line just might. They're not working with DNA that has ration/reason in it. They're working with DNA that has eating disorders and short man syndrome.

We need Smitty in this conversation!
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:38 pm

ssu wrote:
SilverEagle wrote:Honestly I think China has had about enough of them at this point. I doubt they seriously would attack the USA or South Korea because there is no way they could win. Their cities would be leveled before their first missile entered US air space, if they made it at all.
They can be pretty sure that the US won't attack them at this point.

Clinton really thought about bombing them when they were going with their nuclear program. The estimate of casualties gave him cold feet. And so did the Iraq invading Bush get cold feet too.

Now they have those nukes and are trying to miniaturize the weapons in order to make multi-warhead ICBMs.

I can tell you right now we almost went in 1998.

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Post by pineapplemike » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:12 pm

I stumbled across this video recently, I feel bad for those people


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Post by ssu » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:35 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:I can tell you right now we almost went in 1998.
Yep, that was the thing I was referring to.

That wouldn't have been a pic-nic.

Today it wouldn't be either.

(From 2005:)
An actual war on the Korean peninsula would almost certainly be the bloodiest America has fought since Vietnam—possibly since World War II. In recent years Pentagon experts have estimated that the first ninety days of such a conflict might produce 300,000 to 500,000 South Korean and American military casualties, along with hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths. The damage to South Korea alone would rock the global economy.
One should note that what is referred above to are casualties, not fatalities. To get a perspective on this, there have been a little bit under 2 400 fatalies in the war in Afghanistan for the US, but the casualty figure in the fight in Afghanistan is 20 000. Without modern medicine you would easily have fatalities on a totally different scale in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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Post by SilverEagle » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:43 am

ssu wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:I can tell you right now we almost went in 1998.
Yep, that was the thing I was referring to.

That wouldn't have been a pic-nic.

Today it wouldn't be either.

(From 2005:)
An actual war on the Korean peninsula would almost certainly be the bloodiest America has fought since Vietnam—possibly since World War II. In recent years Pentagon experts have estimated that the first ninety days of such a conflict might produce 300,000 to 500,000 South Korean and American military casualties, along with hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths. The damage to South Korea alone would rock the global economy.
One should note that what is referred above to are casualties, not fatalities. To get a perspective on this, there have been a little bit under 2 400 fatalies in the war in Afghanistan for the US, but the casualty figure in the fight in Afghanistan is 20 000. Without modern medicine you would easily have fatalities on a totally different scale in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Assuming the Fat Man Child Un would nuke S.K. or Japan, I doubt they could hit us directly, would we have to have American boots on the ground? South Korean troops on the ground, yes. I would think several counter nuke strikes and conventional air strikes/ air support would be all S.K. Troops would need.

Smitty?????
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