Trump takes the fight to ISIS

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Trump takes the fight to ISIS

Post by C-Mag » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:03 pm

Well Trump has sent limited ground troops to Syria to go after ISIS. A Detachment of 155 Howitzers from the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit and an undisclosed number of Rangers.
http://www.businessinsider.com/us-marin ... qqa-2017-3
“It’s a visible reminder, for anybody who’s looking to start a fight, that the only fight that should be going on right now is with ISIS,” Pentagon spokesman and Navy Capt. Jeff Davis
We can't seem to quit sending troops to new Middle Eastern countries :think:



EDIT: For accuracy
The Islamic Caliphate(or the Caliphate) as declared by Abu-Bakr Al Bagdhadi is more accurate than ISIS/ISIL/Daesh
The Caliphates Territorial Goals
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Approx Current area of Caliphate control in the ME
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Plus Boko Haram in Africa who has aligned with the Caliphate
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Re: Trump takes the fight to ISIS

Post by Fife » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:09 pm

StA was saying in one of these threads in the last couple of days: If you are going to have a super-sized-big-assed standing army and the biggest navy in human history, you better believe somebody's gonna get shot. (I paraphrase, very liberally.)

They aren't built to NOT shoot a motherfucker.

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Re: Trump takes the fight to ISIS

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Re: Trump takes the fight to ISIS

Post by C-Mag » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:54 pm

Strykers rolling in Syria, Old Glory Proudly flying
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A lot of you don't know this, but it has been strictly Verboten to fly American Colors for military personnel. Under the command of CIC Trump, you will proudly fly the colors.


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Post by Okeefenokee » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:58 pm

Yea, verily.
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Post by C-Mag » Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:26 pm

I've got mixed feelings about this.

On one hand ISIS is evil and needs to go down. On the other, we've expanded our footprint in the M-E
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Re: Trump takes the fight to ISIS

Post by ssu » Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:22 am

And finally, CHAOS-Mattis in action. The plan:
Defense Secretary Jim Mattis presented a classified plan to the White House Monday for the rapid defeat of ISIS that was reportedly an updated version of the Obama administration's strategy of relying on local forces to carry the brunt of the fight.

"It is a plan to rapidly defeat ISIS," said Navy Capt. Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman, but he stressed that "this is a preliminary plan" whose details will be closely held to allow for continued discussion and to avoid giving the enemy forewarning.

The plan called for the involvement of "all elements of national power" in what Davis called a "trans-regional approach" to defeating the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria."Diplomacy is a key part of the plan" that was focused on ISIS but was also shaped to include other "trans-regional" terrorist groups, Davis said. "This is really a framework for broader discussion." The formulation of the plan fulfilled a campaign pledge by Trump, who had said that if elected he would order up a 30-day review on accelerated action to eliminate ISIS as a threat. On Jan, 27, Trump went to the Pentagon for the first time to sign an executive order directing Mattis to draw up the plan within 30 days.

At the White House, Mattis outlined the plan to the "Principals Committee" of the National Security Council, led by the new National Security Advisor, Army Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster, Davis said. The Principals Committee included White House chief strategist Steve Bannon and other senior Trump advisers. McMaster had been at the Pentagon last Friday to be briefed on Mattis' proposals which Davis described in general terms as a "broad plan. It is global. It is not just military. It is not just Iraq-Syria." Davis said Mattis intended the plan to require choices by the president and his team "but it's not a "check-the-block, pick A or B or C kind of a plan."
See Military.com's article Mattis Gives White House Tentative Plan for Rapid Defeat of ISIS

Some remarks. First and foremost, Mattis & McMasters don't dissappoint. At least yet, that is. The plan isn't at all the usual idealistic policy intended only for the domestic US soundbite, but understands the complexity of the situation. It isn't just "You go in there and kick ISIS ass". Notable things even from the above are the "trans-regional approach" and that "diplomacy is a key part of the plan" and that it is not "just Iraq-Syria".

One of the true reasons for the US to botch things up has just been the limited focus without taking into account the broader picture, without thinking about things like diplomacy, but simply go for the terrorist and only giving the countries a "you are with us or against us" ultimatum. The US is naturally talking to Turkey and Russia on these issues.

Yet we shouldn't forget that it's really fucked up there:
Free Syrian Army rebels supported by Turkey have attacked the predominantly Kurdish Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) alliance, which has the US’ backing as its most effective ally on the ground.

Both groups oppose the Assad regime, which has launched an offensive on enemy-controlled territory with allies including Russia, Iran and Lebanon’s Hezbollah militant group. The fight against Isis has made the groups uncomfortable allies but the so-called Islamic State's impending defeat in northern Syria is letting former divisions escalate into open conflict along new frontlines.
See Russian, Turkish and US commanders meet to calm worsening Syrian 'proxy war'

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Let's say that Trump's first war has begun. With Stars and Stripes flying.

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Re: Trump takes the fight to ISIS

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:35 am

Well thank goodness we're not the World Police anymore... :roll:
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Re: Trump takes the fight to ISIS

Post by C-Mag » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:35 am

ssu wrote:
Some remarks. First and foremost, Mattis & McMasters don't dissappoint. At least yet, that is. The plan isn't at all the usual idealistic policy intended only for the domestic US soundbite, but understands the complexity of the situation. It isn't just "You go in there and kick ISIS ass". Notable things even from the above are the "trans-regional approach" and that "diplomacy is a key part of the plan" and that it is not "just Iraq-Syria".

Hmmmmmmmmmmm Diplomacy, what's that ?


Trump said Diplomacy was going to be used more often in foreign policy. So, let's see what happens. I'll have to read the Strategery, I just hope they have clear, achievable goals.
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Re: Trump takes the fight to ISIS

Post by C-Mag » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:38 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:Well thank goodness we're not the World Police anymore... :roll:
Yeah, I really have mixed feelings about this. But we armed and funded ISIS and allowed the JV Team to grow into a global threat with some really bad results in the ISIS AO. Evil brutal murders and destruction of World Historic sites we will never get back. ISIS is bad for Humanity. They need to be put down.
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