"Knight Templar" Cave Found In England

[Penner]

Interesting find today in England:

An apparently ordinary rabbit's hole in a farmer's field leads to an underground sanctuary said to have been used by a medieval religious order - but is everything what it seems?

According to local legend, the Caynton Caves, near Shifnal, in Shropshire, were used by followers of the Knights Templar in the 17th Century.

Located less than a metre underground, they appear to be untouched structurally.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-39193347

[Speaker to Animals]

No Templars after 1314.

Only Masons pretending to be them.

[Penner]

Masons only go back to the 18th Century- at the best.

[Speaker to Animals]

Masons only go back to the 18th Century- at the best.

1600s, most likely. Lodges were already forming up early in the 1700s. It had to have predated the advent of grand lodges by at least a generation.

Masons are the ones perpetrating the Templar myths, however. Templars were no more as an organization after 1312 when the Pope dissolved the order, and I think it was 1314 that the last leaders were executed by the secular authorities.

But the point I was making: a "cave used by the Templars in the 17th century", if there is a lick of truth in it, would have to refer to something like Freemasons larping as Templars as they are wont to do.

[C-Mag]

[jbird4049]

Masons only go back to the 18th Century- at the best.

1600s, most likely. Lodges were already forming up early in the 1700s. It had to have predated the advent of grand lodges by at least a generation.

Masons are the ones perpetrating the Templar myths, however. Templars were no more as an organization after 1312 when the Pope dissolved the order, and I think it was 1314 that the last leaders were executed by the secular authorities.

But the point I was making: a "cave used by the Templars in the 17th century", if there is a lick of truth in it, would have to refer to something like Freemasons larping as Templars as they are wont to do.

I thought that many knights fled France, or at least the authorities in some countries ignored the church's demands that they be turned over. After that they either joined, or created, new (poorer) orders.

[Speaker to Animals]

Masons only go back to the 18th Century- at the best.

1600s, most likely. Lodges were already forming up early in the 1700s. It had to have predated the advent of grand lodges by at least a generation.

Masons are the ones perpetrating the Templar myths, however. Templars were no more as an organization after 1312 when the Pope dissolved the order, and I think it was 1314 that the last leaders were executed by the secular authorities.

But the point I was making: a "cave used by the Templars in the 17th century", if there is a lick of truth in it, would have to refer to something like Freemasons larping as Templars as they are wont to do.

I thought that many knights fled France, or at least the authorities in some countries ignored the church's demands that they be turned over. After that they either joined, or created, new (poorer) orders.

Most likely the guys who were minor order just went back home or joined other orders. The guys who had taken vows would be subsumed into other orders.

But by then, it had become extremely corrupt. These guys were not noble warrior monks from two centuries before. I am pretty sure they were guilty as charged, though I don't doubt Phillip trumped up the charges a bit.