Executive Overreach

User avatar
katarn
Posts: 563
Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:30 pm

Executive Overreach

Post by katarn »

The executive authority has grown far too powerful in the U.S. The President has gained powers formerly attributed to Congress, the most notable being a de facto state of war. In the minds of many of America's founders, the executive was necessarily weaker than the legislative, but gradual concessions have largely reversed that dynamic.

1. Has the aggregation of power to the POTUS been the inevitable result of human nature, as many founders feared when designing the system?
2. What could realistically happen to re-reverse and diminish executive authority to its 'proper' place.
3. Should the dynamic be returned to more even and historical levels? Is the weakness of the executive actually necessary or even beneficial to a republic?
"Stone walls do not a prison make, nor iron bars a cage...
If I have freedom in my love
And in my soul am free,
Angels alone that soar above
Enjoy such Liberty" - Richard Lovelace
User avatar
SuburbanFarmer
Posts: 25408
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:50 am
Location: Ohio

Re: Executive Overreach

Post by SuburbanFarmer »

katarn wrote:The executive authority has grown far too powerful in the U.S. The President has gained powers formerly attributed to Congress, the most notable being a de facto state of war. In the minds of many of America's founders, the executive was necessarily weaker than the legislative, but gradual concessions have largely reversed that dynamic.

1. Has the aggregation of power to the POTUS been the inevitable result of human nature, as many founders feared when designing the system?
Yes. In short, because frightened people crave a strong "Father" figure to make them feel safe. And our media directly profits from frightening people.
2. What could realistically happen to re-reverse and diminish executive authority to its 'proper' place.
People ejecting members of congress each election, and forcing them to listen to our concerns. Fortunately, I believe that the Millenials are developing an immunity to fear-mongering and are far more well informed than previous generations.
3. Should the dynamic be returned to more even and historical levels? Is the weakness of the executive actually necessary or even beneficial to a republic?
Yes. Very.

The Executive should only act in times of emergency, and otherwise be relegated to foreign diplomacy.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

Formerly GrumpyCatFace

https://youtu.be/CYbT8-rSqo0
User avatar
C-Mag
Posts: 28382
Joined: Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:48 pm

Re: Executive Overreach

Post by C-Mag »

I Love the Trump Affect !
PLATA O PLOMO


Image


Don't fear authority, Fear Obedience
User avatar
de officiis
Posts: 2528
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:09 am

Re: Executive Overreach

Post by de officiis »

The root cause, in a word: empire.
Image
User avatar
katarn
Posts: 563
Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:30 pm

Re: Executive Overreach

Post by katarn »

C-Mag wrote:I Love the Trump Affect !
I like it too. These are thoughts I've actually had since well before I knew who Trump was or his running, but the amusement I felt when I saw normal people begin to think in the same vein prompted the posting.

I think the simplest, easiest to explain answer is this: Even if you might be fine with a Constantine or an Augustus, you wouldn't be okay with a Nero or a Caligula. Hence, it is best to restrict their authority so that they never get to be Caligula.
"Stone walls do not a prison make, nor iron bars a cage...
If I have freedom in my love
And in my soul am free,
Angels alone that soar above
Enjoy such Liberty" - Richard Lovelace
User avatar
TheReal_ND
Posts: 26048
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:23 pm

Re: Executive Overreach

Post by TheReal_ND »

Nero in particular was much maligned by Christian historians for persecution.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/nero-x00b0and

Caligula got an unfair hearing in the history books as well.