Reverse China

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Reverse China

Post by Martin Hash » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:42 am

Trump's election highlighted the Virtual Civil War in America. One possible solution is for America to be the reverse of China: instead of being State-Marxism with scattered Capitalist zones, America could be State-Capitalism with small Marxism zones.
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Re: Reverse China

Post by katarn » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:03 pm

Martin Hash wrote:Trump's election highlighted the Virtual Civil War in America. One possible solution is for America to be the reverse of China: instead of being State-Marxism with scattered Capitalist zones, America could be State-Capitalism with small Marxism zones.
How would that work logistically, and where would you put them?
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Re: Reverse China

Post by Martin Hash » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:08 pm

Portland, OR & San Francisco, CA are already People's Republics. If they were nationally recognized as such, given special dispensation to curtail liberty & institute forced re-education programs, then socialist/Marxists would have other options besides Canada.
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Re: Reverse China

Post by Zlaxer » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:09 pm

Martin Hash wrote:Trump's election highlighted the Virtual Civil War in America. One possible solution is for America to be the reverse of China: instead of being State-Marxism with scattered Capitalist zones, America could be State-Capitalism with small Marxism zones.

By what do you mean could: SanFran? Denver?, Hartford?

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Re: Reverse China

Post by katarn » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:18 pm

Is Denver as bad as they are? I never noticed when I would visit the area, but I was pretty young...
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Re: Reverse China

Post by Zlaxer » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:25 pm

I should have specified Boulder.....and yes, they're freaking left of Stein.

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Re: Reverse China

Post by katarn » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:29 pm

Zlaxer wrote:I should have specified Boulder.....and yes, they're freaking left of Stein.
Boulder definitely is, but Denver didn't seem quite that way. But then, leftist views and voting do not necessarily equate to the sort of 'marxist hack' that most of us find annoying.
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Re: Reverse China

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:38 pm

Sounds like what America once did to finally starve out the institution of slavery.

If marxism can no longer spread to prosperous regions after destroying previous regions, marxists face the choice between war and giving up marxism.

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Re: Reverse China

Post by nickle7 » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:31 pm

Martin Hash wrote:Portland, OR & San Francisco, CA are already People's Republics. If they were nationally recognized as such, given special dispensation to curtail liberty & institute forced re-education programs, then socialist/Marxists would have other options besides Canada.
Wildly implausible. Should I be reading this as sarcasm?? When you say "...given special dispensation to curtail liberty," what do you mean exactly?
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Re: Reverse China

Post by Martin Hash » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:35 pm

American law defaults to liberty (individuals come first). Marxist/socialists cities would need to be able to override the courts.
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