Meanwhile in Ukraine

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Martin Hash wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 7:39 pm Now that I’ve watched that video of what Russia wants, this is definitely for all the marbles so Ukraine will fall or there will be nukes.
Putin in essence takes the Soviet position

Ukraine is not a real country

it's part of the Russian Near Abroad from the Soviet Sphere of Influence

the Soviets made peace with the West, the West took advantage, collapsed the Russian economy

Ukraine was one of the things that was stolen from Russia during that crisis

now it is run by NATO backed Nazis and poses a direct threat to Russia, to include a nuclear threat

this would be what the Soviet Politburo would say if they were still around
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again, he's not Hitler

he's Yuri Andropov

Yuri Andropov being a ruthless KGB General as well

Yuri Andropov was Putin's boss in the Cold War
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the Soviet state security forces became like criminal cartels

there were the two great rivals

the "civilian" KGB : Committee for State Security

and the military GRU : Main Intelligence Directorate (to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Soviet Union)

the KGB was the most mafia like

you had to be invited to join, and that was for life, the only way out was a bullet to the back of the head

the KGB 1st & 2nd General Directorates were broken off to become the current FSB & SVR

the GRU carries on as their rivals

Putin is a KGB Lt Colonel who was posted to East Germany and still has deep connections in Germany

Putin has relatives and whatnot who actually live in mansions in Germany now
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Martin Hash wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 7:29 pm Nope, Putin is NOT going crazy. It’s obvious that Brandon is why he’s doing this now.

Excellent video.

I don’t think it goes to a full takeover of Ukraine. He’s only aiming for the East and south linkup. Taking the whole thing would only put NATO back on his border. He needs buffer states.
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Our VP fills us in on the complex details of this conflict
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SuburbanFarmer wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:18 pm I don’t think it goes to a full takeover of Ukraine. He’s only aiming for the East and south linkup. Taking the whole thing would only put NATO back on his border. He needs buffer states.
the problem now is that if he leaves a West Ukraine on the far bank of the Dnieper

that's quickly going to become a very heavily armed EU/NATO proxy which will pose a serious threat
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Smitty-48 wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:27 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:18 pm I don’t think it goes to a full takeover of Ukraine. He’s only aiming for the East and south linkup. Taking the whole thing would only put NATO back on his border. He needs buffer states.
the problem now is that if he leaves a West Ukraine on the far bank of the Dnieper

that's quickly going to become a very heavily armed EU/NATO proxy which will pose a serious threat
I agree: he's going for the whole enchilada.
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Considering how "RUSSIA!" is the boogeyman of every Lefty narrative, and that war is the greatest distraction from failure, Putin is right to think his country is threatened by The West. Also, The West is the new Marxism, and Marxism is expansionary: all people have to be equal.
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Martin Hash wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:29 pm
Smitty-48 wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:27 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:18 pm I don’t think it goes to a full takeover of Ukraine. He’s only aiming for the East and south linkup. Taking the whole thing would only put NATO back on his border. He needs buffer states.
the problem now is that if he leaves a West Ukraine on the far bank of the Dnieper

that's quickly going to become a very heavily armed EU/NATO proxy which will pose a serious threat
I agree: he's going for the whole enchilada.
the Ukraine proxy is now far, far more dangerous than NATO

the Ukraine proxy is revanchist now, they will be determined to get East Ukraine back at any cost

and unlike NATO, they are free to attack the Russians without Article V being invoked

so they quickly become NATO's attack dog, with billions in the latest NATO military hardware
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Wokeism was already infiltrating Ukraine and those folks have the certainty of righteous indignation at their backs.
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