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Montegriffo
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by Montegriffo » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:52 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:27 pm
I wonder what it is about this progressive ideology that breeds so much dishonesty and deliberate fallacious comments.
I wonder what it is about your ideology which equates a dislike for anti-immigrant thugs like Yaxley Lennon with anti-white bigotry.
It is fallacious and dishonest to label me as a bigot for opposing bigotry.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:16 pm
Montegriffo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:52 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:27 pm
I wonder what it is about this progressive ideology that breeds so much dishonesty and deliberate fallacious comments.
I wonder what it is about your ideology which equates a dislike for anti-immigrant thugs like Yaxley Lennon with anti-white bigotry.
It is fallacious and dishonest to label me as a bigot for opposing bigotry.
Because "anti-immigration thugs" is your newspeak for
puts the interests of his own nation's people first.
When apartheid governments locked up black agitators who essentially did the same thing as Tommy Robinson, your kind screamed
racist and
colonialism.
What normal-functioning people for the most part failed to understand is that your kind never objected to the tactics and repression. Your objection was that it put whites first to the detriment of the indigenous people (or in the case of South Africa what you falsely assumed were indigenous people). Yet when the shoe is on the other foot and whites are the victims of the repression you support it. You support it because you never disagreed with totalitarianism: you only disagreed with totalitarianism that protected whites instead of soft genocided them.
The real fucking irony with your newspeak is that you attempt to disguise your naked bigotry and deadly hostility towards your own people by portraying your victims as some kind of reprehensible characters, and yet there is nothing inherently wrong with being "anti-immigration" to any objectively-minded man in this world. He might oppose the idea of limiting or halting immigration, but control of immigration is the right of the people.
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SuburbanFarmer
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by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:52 pm
Goofball goes to jail = totalitarian state and genocide.
What a kaleidoscopic world you must live in.
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by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:09 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:52 pm
Goofball goes to jail = totalitarian state and genocide.
What a kaleidoscopic world you must live in.
Goofball went to jail. He broke the law!
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by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:39 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:09 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:52 pm
Goofball goes to jail = totalitarian state and genocide.
What a kaleidoscopic world you must live in.
Goofball went to jail. He broke the law!
Obviously it’s not necessarily a good thing, but that alone doesn’t imply 1984 conditions. If there were thousands of these guys being jailed across the country, that might get closer to the 60s in America.
But we didn’t go police state until 2001.
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by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:57 pm
England today is essentially 1984 manifest.
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by Montegriffo » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:08 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:52 pm
Goofball goes to jail = totalitarian state and genocide.
What a kaleidoscopic world you must live in.
Goofball is putting it mildly.
Robinson's criminal record includes convictions for violence, financial and immigration frauds, drug possession, public order offences, and contempt of court.[27][28][29] He has served at least three separate custodial sentences: in 2005 for assault, in 2012 for using false travel documents, and in 2014 for mortgage fraud.[14][17][5]
In July 2011, at Luton and South Bedfordshire Magistrates' Court, Robinson was convicted of using threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour, for leading a group of Luton Town F.C. supporters into a brawl involving 100 people in Luton on 24 August 2010.[7][8]
Assault
In April 2005, Robinson was convicted of assaulting an off-duty police officer who had intervened to protect Robinson's girlfriend from Robinson.[3][4][5] He was imprisoned for 12 months.[5][3]
In September 2011, at Preston Magistrates' Court, Robinson was convicted of assault for headbutting a man in Blackburn on 2 April 2011.[11][9] In November 2011, he was given a 12-week jail term, suspended for 12 months.[12]
False passport
In October 2012, Robinson was arrested and held on the charge of having entered the United States illegally. Robinson pleaded guilty at Southwark Crown Court to using someone else's passport to travel to the United States in September 2012, and was sentenced in January 2013 to 10 months' imprisonment.[14][15][173]
Robinson had used a passport in the name of Andrew McMaster to board a Virgin Atlantic flight from Heathrow to New York.[14] He had been banned from entering the US due to a drugs offence. When he arrived at New York's JFK Airport, customs officials who took his fingerprints realised he was not McMaster. He was asked to attend a second interview but left the airport, entering the US illegally. He stayed one night and returned to the UK the following day using his own legitimate passport – which bears the name Paul Harris.[13]
Judge Alistair McCreath told him: "What you did went absolutely to the heart of the immigration controls that the United States are entitled to have. It's not in any sense trivial."[14]
He was released on electronic tag on 22 February 2013.[174]
Fraud
In November 2012, Robinson was charged with three counts of conspiracy to commit fraud by misrepresentation in relation to a mortgage application, along with five other defendants.[175] He pleaded guilty to two charges and in January 2014 was sentenced to 18 months imprisonment.[16][173]
Robinson's fraud amounted to £160,000 over a period of six months. Judge Andrew Bright QC described him as the "instigator, if not the architect" of a series of frauds totalling £640,000. "This was an operation which was fraudulent from the outset and involved a significant amount of forward planning." He described Robinson as a "fixer" who had introduced others to fraudulent mortgage broker Deborah Rothschild. Rothschild had assisted some defendants by providing fake pay slips and income details.[17]
Robinson was attacked by several fellow prisoners in HM Prison Woodhill.[176][177] Following news of the attack, Maajid Nawaz wrote to the Secretary of State for Justice, Chris Grayling, asking for Robinson's situation to be urgently addressed.[177][178] Shortly after this incident, Robinson was moved to HM Prison Winchester. Robinson told Jamie Bartlett, a director of the think tank Demos: "In Woodhill, I experienced Islam the gang. [...] In Winchester, I have experienced Islam the religion." Robinson made friends with several Muslim prisoners, referring to them as "great lads [...] I cannot speak highly enough of the Muslim inmates I'm now living with".[179] In June 2014, Robinson was released on licence. The terms of his early release included having no contact with the EDL until the end of his original sentence in June 2015.[179] He was due to talk to the Oxford Union in October 2014, but was recalled to prison before the event for breaching the terms of his licence.[180] He was ultimately released on 14 November 2014.[181]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Rob ... onvictions
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:17 pm
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by The Conservative » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:29 pm
Montegriffo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:08 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:52 pm
Goofball goes to jail = totalitarian state and genocide.
What a kaleidoscopic world you must live in.
Goofball is putting it mildly.
Robinson's criminal record includes convictions for violence, financial and immigration frauds, drug possession, public order offences, and contempt of court.[27][28][29] He has served at least three separate custodial sentences: in 2005 for assault, in 2012 for using false travel documents, and in 2014 for mortgage fraud.[14][17][5]
In July 2011, at Luton and South Bedfordshire Magistrates' Court, Robinson was convicted of using threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour, for leading a group of Luton Town F.C. supporters into a brawl involving 100 people in Luton on 24 August 2010.[7][8]
Assault
In April 2005, Robinson was convicted of assaulting an off-duty police officer who had intervened to protect Robinson's girlfriend from Robinson.[3][4][5] He was imprisoned for 12 months.[5][3]
In September 2011, at Preston Magistrates' Court, Robinson was convicted of assault for headbutting a man in Blackburn on 2 April 2011.[11][9] In November 2011, he was given a 12-week jail term, suspended for 12 months.[12]
False passport
In October 2012, Robinson was arrested and held on the charge of having entered the United States illegally. Robinson pleaded guilty at Southwark Crown Court to using someone else's passport to travel to the United States in September 2012, and was sentenced in January 2013 to 10 months' imprisonment.[14][15][173]
Robinson had used a passport in the name of Andrew McMaster to board a Virgin Atlantic flight from Heathrow to New York.[14] He had been banned from entering the US due to a drugs offence. When he arrived at New York's JFK Airport, customs officials who took his fingerprints realised he was not McMaster. He was asked to attend a second interview but left the airport, entering the US illegally. He stayed one night and returned to the UK the following day using his own legitimate passport – which bears the name Paul Harris.[13]
Judge Alistair McCreath told him: "What you did went absolutely to the heart of the immigration controls that the United States are entitled to have. It's not in any sense trivial."[14]
He was released on electronic tag on 22 February 2013.[174]
Fraud
In November 2012, Robinson was charged with three counts of conspiracy to commit fraud by misrepresentation in relation to a mortgage application, along with five other defendants.[175] He pleaded guilty to two charges and in January 2014 was sentenced to 18 months imprisonment.[16][173]
Robinson's fraud amounted to £160,000 over a period of six months. Judge Andrew Bright QC described him as the "instigator, if not the architect" of a series of frauds totalling £640,000. "This was an operation which was fraudulent from the outset and involved a significant amount of forward planning." He described Robinson as a "fixer" who had introduced others to fraudulent mortgage broker Deborah Rothschild. Rothschild had assisted some defendants by providing fake pay slips and income details.[17]
Robinson was attacked by several fellow prisoners in HM Prison Woodhill.[176][177] Following news of the attack, Maajid Nawaz wrote to the Secretary of State for Justice, Chris Grayling, asking for Robinson's situation to be urgently addressed.[177][178] Shortly after this incident, Robinson was moved to HM Prison Winchester. Robinson told Jamie Bartlett, a director of the think tank Demos: "In Woodhill, I experienced Islam the gang. [...] In Winchester, I have experienced Islam the religion." Robinson made friends with several Muslim prisoners, referring to them as "great lads [...] I cannot speak highly enough of the Muslim inmates I'm now living with".[179] In June 2014, Robinson was released on licence. The terms of his early release included having no contact with the EDL until the end of his original sentence in June 2015.[179] He was due to talk to the Oxford Union in October 2014, but was recalled to prison before the event for breaching the terms of his licence.[180] He was ultimately released on 14 November 2014.[181]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Rob ... onvictions
Yeah, let’s compare this all to taping and grooming on at least 20 children.
Know what, fuck you, you are no better that the pedophiles you are defending you sick fuck.
#NotOneRedCent
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Montegriffo
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by Montegriffo » Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:04 am
The Conservative wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:29 pm
Montegriffo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:08 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:52 pm
Goofball goes to jail = totalitarian state and genocide.
What a kaleidoscopic world you must live in.
Goofball is putting it mildly.
Robinson's criminal record includes convictions for violence, financial and immigration frauds, drug possession, public order offences, and contempt of court.[27][28][29] He has served at least three separate custodial sentences: in 2005 for assault, in 2012 for using false travel documents, and in 2014 for mortgage fraud.[14][17][5]
In July 2011, at Luton and South Bedfordshire Magistrates' Court, Robinson was convicted of using threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour, for leading a group of Luton Town F.C. supporters into a brawl involving 100 people in Luton on 24 August 2010.[7][8]
Assault
In April 2005, Robinson was convicted of assaulting an off-duty police officer who had intervened to protect Robinson's girlfriend from Robinson.[3][4][5] He was imprisoned for 12 months.[5][3]
In September 2011, at Preston Magistrates' Court, Robinson was convicted of assault for headbutting a man in Blackburn on 2 April 2011.[11][9] In November 2011, he was given a 12-week jail term, suspended for 12 months.[12]
False passport
In October 2012, Robinson was arrested and held on the charge of having entered the United States illegally. Robinson pleaded guilty at Southwark Crown Court to using someone else's passport to travel to the United States in September 2012, and was sentenced in January 2013 to 10 months' imprisonment.[14][15][173]
Robinson had used a passport in the name of Andrew McMaster to board a Virgin Atlantic flight from Heathrow to New York.[14] He had been banned from entering the US due to a drugs offence. When he arrived at New York's JFK Airport, customs officials who took his fingerprints realised he was not McMaster. He was asked to attend a second interview but left the airport, entering the US illegally. He stayed one night and returned to the UK the following day using his own legitimate passport – which bears the name Paul Harris.[13]
Judge Alistair McCreath told him: "What you did went absolutely to the heart of the immigration controls that the United States are entitled to have. It's not in any sense trivial."[14]
He was released on electronic tag on 22 February 2013.[174]
Fraud
In November 2012, Robinson was charged with three counts of conspiracy to commit fraud by misrepresentation in relation to a mortgage application, along with five other defendants.[175] He pleaded guilty to two charges and in January 2014 was sentenced to 18 months imprisonment.[16][173]
Robinson's fraud amounted to £160,000 over a period of six months. Judge Andrew Bright QC described him as the "instigator, if not the architect" of a series of frauds totalling £640,000. "This was an operation which was fraudulent from the outset and involved a significant amount of forward planning." He described Robinson as a "fixer" who had introduced others to fraudulent mortgage broker Deborah Rothschild. Rothschild had assisted some defendants by providing fake pay slips and income details.[17]
Robinson was attacked by several fellow prisoners in HM Prison Woodhill.[176][177] Following news of the attack, Maajid Nawaz wrote to the Secretary of State for Justice, Chris Grayling, asking for Robinson's situation to be urgently addressed.[177][178] Shortly after this incident, Robinson was moved to HM Prison Winchester. Robinson told Jamie Bartlett, a director of the think tank Demos: "In Woodhill, I experienced Islam the gang. [...] In Winchester, I have experienced Islam the religion." Robinson made friends with several Muslim prisoners, referring to them as "great lads [...] I cannot speak highly enough of the Muslim inmates I'm now living with".[179] In June 2014, Robinson was released on licence. The terms of his early release included having no contact with the EDL until the end of his original sentence in June 2015.[179] He was due to talk to the Oxford Union in October 2014, but was recalled to prison before the event for breaching the terms of his licence.[180] He was ultimately released on 14 November 2014.[181]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Rob ... onvictions
Yeah, let’s compare this all to taping and grooming on at least 20 children.
Know what, fuck you, you are no better that the pedophiles you are defending you sick fuck.
How the fuck am I defending paedophiles you moron?
Yaxley Lennon was convicted for disrupting the trial of 30 child groomers.
He very nearly got the trial suspended.
Now go away and do some research about how many non-Muslim child grooming trials he has "exposed" in his campaign to rid Britain of sex offenders.
In fact, just have a look for the two members of the far right organisation he founded (EDL)
who were convicted of sexually abusing children and see if he had anything to say at their trials.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.