Capitalism Cures Poverty

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Re: Capitalism Cures Poverty

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:09 pm

Martin Hash wrote:Got a better word?

For what? A false construct that does not actually exist? I don't need a word to describe something which isn't a thing.
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Re: Capitalism Cures Poverty

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:11 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:Got a better word?

For what? A false construct that does not actually exist? I don't need a word to describe something which isn't a thing.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:15 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:Got a better word?

For what? A false construct that does not actually exist? I don't need a word to describe something which isn't a thing.
"It exists, therefore it is." - Descartes paraphrased
But a "society" doesn't exist, it's a fabricated rubric used to forcibly subjugate complexity into a collective for the purposes of restricting your liberty and autonomy from, the stock and trade of totalitarian leftists, trust me, I am Canadian, and "society" is the cudgel with which I am beaten about the head on a daily basis.
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Re: Capitalism Cures Poverty

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:20 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
For what? A false construct that does not actually exist? I don't need a word to describe something which isn't a thing.
"It exists, therefore it is." - Descartes paraphrased
But a "society" doesn't exist, it's a fabricated rubric used to forcibly subjugate complexity into a collective for the purposes of restricting liberty.
To recap:
I say liberty derives from society.
You say liberty exists in a vacuum, only limited by society.
One of us is right, the other entirely wrong. (Where's that desert island when you need it?)
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Re: Capitalism Cures Poverty

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:21 pm

Let's not conflate liberty with freedom. For example, freedom may be limited to increase liberty.
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Re: Capitalism Cures Poverty

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:22 pm

Here's a little exercise, get out your copy of the Constitution of the United States of America, preamble on down, and find me the word "society" anywhere in it.

"Society" is the basis of liberty, and yet Liberty Nation doesn't mention it once in its constitution? Odd, that.
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Post by Martin Hash » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:24 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:Here's a little exercise, get out your copy of the Constitution of the United States of America, preamble on down, and find me the word "society" anywhere in it.
"We the People" is 3 words. "Society" is 1. Substituting 3 words for 1 drags on my 1-line debating technique but if you think every time I should write "we the people," just say so.
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Re: Capitalism Cures Poverty

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:28 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Here's a little exercise, get out your copy of the Constitution of the United States of America, preamble on down, and find me the word "society" anywhere in it.
"We the People" is 3 words. "Society" is 1. Substituting 3 words for 1 drags on my 1-line debating technique but if you think every time I should write "we the people," just say so.
We the people does not describe the "society", there's no limits to the society, the society included the slaves, the Indians, the loyalists, the British Army officers living in your house for free, everybody is in the "society", Martin, there's no borders in the "society", there's no autonomy from "society", the "society" was what the British Crown invoked, the Declaration of Independence from said "No".

Stamp Act? The "society". Tea Tax? For "society". Impressment? One has to defend the "society" from Bonaparte, eh wot?
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Re: Capitalism Cures Poverty

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:55 pm

I still don't have nuttin' better than "society" to describe "We The People," but I catch your drift, Lefties are always yapping about "society" too.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:03 pm

Martin Hash wrote:I still don't have nuttin' better than "society" to describe "We The People," but I catch your drift, Lefties are always yapping about "society" too.
The "society" is the essence of what the left is all about, tear down the borders, tear down the barriers, no autonomy from the "society", all are subjugated to the collective, One World Government Kumbaya.

Chinese labourers, Mexican migrants, Arab Islamists, not Americans... oh but wait, they're part of "society!"....

British North America is part of American "society", when do I get my gibs?
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