America vs the rest of the world. What would happen?

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:21 pm

StCapps wrote:I might not be, so I'm a little worried, especially as a fan of sports where the goal is to cause enough damage to your opponent as to render them unable to continue the fight, which almost always includes brain damage to one degree or another. Thankfully the pussies already stay away from MMA as it is these days, and the last time they banned it, lead by John McCain, it just lead to the sport coming back better than ever, silver lining for the win.
Shady blood sports like boxing and MMA can exist in a grey area, they can even go offshore and still make their ppv money, but football, fed by the public institutions of high schools and colleges, that's doomed, and hockey, fed by junior hockey and colleges, that's not doomed, but it's going to be women's hockey style only, incidental contact, but no finishing your checks for all intents and purposes.

Hockey is not as bad as football, not even close, football is the worst, because it's helmet to helmet impacts, like one car crash after the next, on almost every single play, game in game out, all year long. All the concussion Sidney Crosby has had, prolly doesn't amount to one season's worth for an NFL lineman.
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Post by StCapps » Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:24 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:Shady blood sports like boxing and MMA can exist in a grey area, they can even go offshore and still make their ppv money, but football, fed by the public institutions of high schools and colleges, that's doomed, and hockey, fed by junior hockey and colleges, that's not doomed, but it's going to be women's hockey style only, incidental contact but no finishing your checks for all intents and purposes.
They can fight on an old aircraft carrier, like they do in Russia sometimes. Silver linings abound for shady blood sports, yippee.

What's next? More dudes making ring entrances in tanks?

That would be awesome.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:34 pm

Thing is, even with the blows to the head they take, boxing/MMA, it's still nothing compared to football, a boxer or an MMA fighter; it's not they like fight 25 times a year, and take blows like that in practice as well, they take hard blows, but nobody takes harder blows to the head more often over a sustained period with as much force, as football players do, it's not like the strongest boxer could ever hit you as hard a defensive back putting his whole body into it, with a helmet as a battering ram.

Anytime you get clipped hard in a football game, that's basically like having a car accident or being close to an IED going off, even boxers don't take sustained contact like that to the head as often, I mean, they take months to prepare for blows like that, football players take them within a few seconds of taking the previous one, and second hit syndrome is a big thing, multiple blows in close succession has been shown to be the biggest danger for TBI.

Like I say, as medical science continues to report back on this, parents are going to be running from football screaming in terror, and it's not going to be too long.
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Post by StCapps » Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:43 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:Thing is, even with the blows to the head they take, boxing/MMA, it's still nothing compared to football, a boxer or an MMA fighter; it's not they like fight 25 times a year, and take blows like that in practice as well, they take hard blows, but nobody takes harder blows to the head more often over a sustained period with as much force, as football players do, it's not like the strongest boxer could ever hit you as hard a defensive back putting his whole body into it, with a helmet as a battering ram.
Very true and of the two, MMA is safer than boxing in the blow to head department. MMA fighters take more kicks to leg, but as far as head blows are concerned, they take much less than boxers. Grappling being allowed, shorter maximum length of fights, four ounce gloves, and no 10 seconds to recover from being knocked down, that all leads to less overall blows to the head that are sustained during a fight.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:51 pm

The other thing is, two kids boxing, with gloves and headgear, they're not doing damage like professional boxers, but with football, even high school kids are doing massive damage, you don't have to be 6'5" 250 lbs to clip a kid hard helmet to helmet and incite the car accident effect, high school freshman can collide like toyota corollas just as much as men can, so football is way worse for kids, in the end, this is all going to come down to helicopter parents, helicopter parents are the doom of tackle football.
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Smitty-48 wrote:The other thing is, two kids boxing, with gloves and headgear, they're not doing damage like professional boxers, but with football, even high school kids are doing massive damage, you don't have to be 6"5" 250 lbs to clip a kid hard and incite the car accident effect, high school freshman can collide like toyota corollas just as much as men can, so football is way worse for kids, in the end, this is all going to come down to helicopter parents, helicopter parents are the doom of tackle football.
Burn them all I say, and before they ruin my favorite sports. Fuck Helicopter Parents and the helicopters that they rode in on. Gas them if you have to, I really don't care about the method of execution, whatever works best in any given situation, feel free to improvise.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:06 pm

StCapps wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:The other thing is, two kids boxing, with gloves and headgear, they're not doing damage like professional boxers, but with football, even high school kids are doing massive damage, you don't have to be 6"5" 250 lbs to clip a kid hard and incite the car accident effect, high school freshman can collide like toyota corollas just as much as men can, so football is way worse for kids, in the end, this is all going to come down to helicopter parents, helicopter parents are the doom of tackle football.
Burn them all I say, and before they ruin my favorite sports. Fuck Helicopter Parents and the helicopters that they rode in on. Gas them if you have to, I really don't care about the method of execution, whatever works best in any given situation, feel free to improvise
Helicopter Parents has already been replaced by an even more virulent strain called; Bulldozer Parents, because they don't even hover like helicopters, they come bulldozing through doing everything for their kids preemptively, so it's not getting better, it's going into whole knew levels of worse.
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Smitty-48 wrote:Helicopter Parents has already been replaced by an even more virulent strain called; Bulldozer Parents, because they don't even hover like helicopters, they come bulldozing through doing everything for their kids preemptively, so it's not getting better, it's going into whole knew levels of worse.
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Post by Montegriffo » Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:23 am

StCapps wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:The other thing is, two kids boxing, with gloves and headgear, they're not doing damage like professional boxers, but with football, even high school kids are doing massive damage, you don't have to be 6"5" 250 lbs to clip a kid hard and incite the car accident effect, high school freshman can collide like toyota corollas just as much as men can, so football is way worse for kids, in the end, this is all going to come down to helicopter parents, helicopter parents are the doom of tackle football.
Burn them all I say, and before they ruin my favorite sports. Fuck Helicopter Parents and the helicopters that they rode in on. Gas them if you have to, I really don't care about the method of execution, whatever works best in any given situation, feel free to improvise.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/ ... -reaction/
'Whatever next, rubber pens in class and no running in playground?' Reaction to no tackling in schools rugby debate
Referees, players past and present, and pundits have reacted with sarcasm and disbelief at calls from experts to ban tackling and scrums in schools rugby up to the age of 18 because of safety concerns.

Professors Allyson Pollock and Graham Kirkwood from the Institute of Health at Newcastle University write in a leading medical journal that most injuries in youth rugby occur due to the collision of elements in the game.

They believe that removing collision from schools rugby is likely to "reduce and mitigate the risk of injury" in pupils.
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