Minimum Wage Sucks Because

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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by Martin Hash » Wed May 03, 2017 12:05 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:As far as The Poor & Middle Class go: immigration & "Free" Trade are bad things. However, for the economy as a whole, and especially for The Rich, those are good things: rising tide & all that.

Only tax policy can correct for this: that's why high Progressive tax rates are important. (High inheritance taxes are important to prevent an aristocracy.)
Immigration and free trade have no effect on the Middle Class - only the poor. Middle Class does not mean 'factory worker' any more. It's office drones and middle-management.
Middle Class is $46,960 through $140,900. (I was going to split out "Upper Middle Class & The Rich" but too much granularity for a 1 sentence political comment.
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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed May 03, 2017 12:15 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:As far as The Poor & Middle Class go: immigration & "Free" Trade are bad things. However, for the economy as a whole, and especially for The Rich, those are good things: rising tide & all that.

Only tax policy can correct for this: that's why high Progressive tax rates are important. (High inheritance taxes are important to prevent an aristocracy.)
Immigration and free trade have no effect on the Middle Class - only the poor. Middle Class does not mean 'factory worker' any more. It's office drones and middle-management.
Middle Class is $46,960 through $140,900. (I was going to split out "Upper Middle Class & The Rich" but too much granularity for a 1 sentence political comment.
Nobody (and I mean nobody) is making $47k as a laborer, or kitchen worker. That's a head chef's wage, or upper management in a small business.
As a business owner, it's doable, but that's not what we're looking at.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed May 03, 2017 12:20 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Immigration and free trade have no effect on the Middle Class - only the poor. Middle Class does not mean 'factory worker' any more. It's office drones and middle-management.
Middle Class is $46,960 through $140,900. (I was going to split out "Upper Middle Class & The Rich" but too much granularity for a 1 sentence political comment.
Nobody (and I mean nobody) is making $47k as a laborer, or kitchen worker. That's a head chef's wage, or upper management in a small business.
As a business owner, it's doable, but that's not what we're looking at.


:lol:

He still hasn't realized tradesman make more than IT guys.

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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed May 03, 2017 12:24 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Martin Hash wrote: Middle Class is $46,960 through $140,900. (I was going to split out "Upper Middle Class & The Rich" but too much granularity for a 1 sentence political comment.
Nobody (and I mean nobody) is making $47k as a laborer, or kitchen worker. That's a head chef's wage, or upper management in a small business.
As a business owner, it's doable, but that's not what we're looking at.


:lol:

He still hasn't realized tradesman make more than IT guys.
Not unless they work for themselves, as I mentioned. Nobody makes that kind of wage, unless it's in tech somewhere, or a union gig.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed May 03, 2017 12:26 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Nobody (and I mean nobody) is making $47k as a laborer, or kitchen worker. That's a head chef's wage, or upper management in a small business.
As a business owner, it's doable, but that's not what we're looking at.


:lol:

He still hasn't realized tradesman make more than IT guys.
Not unless they work for themselves, as I mentioned. Nobody makes that kind of wage, unless it's in tech somewhere, or a union gig.

:lol:


They make bank, dude.

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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed May 03, 2017 12:27 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:


:lol:

He still hasn't realized tradesman make more than IT guys.
Not unless they work for themselves, as I mentioned. Nobody makes that kind of wage, unless it's in tech somewhere, or a union gig.

:lol:


They make bank, dude.
Shit, I can't argue with that. You have defeated me, sir. Well played.
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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed May 03, 2017 12:30 pm

I mean.. you can just Google the average salary of a particular tradesman in your city.. A child could refute you.

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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by Martin Hash » Wed May 03, 2017 12:30 pm

Journeyman anything makes $40K. (You must be thinking of Apprenticeships?)
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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by Martin Hash » Wed May 03, 2017 12:32 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:I'm not against this. But none of it matters, until the loopholes are closed.
"Loopholes" are for the Middle Class. Eliminating the Capital Gains scam is probably what you mean?
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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed May 03, 2017 12:35 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:I mean.. you can just Google the average salary of a particular tradesman in your city.. A child could refute you.
But you haven't.
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