Leftist Greed

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Re: Leftist Greed

Post by C-Mag » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:12 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:07 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:04 pm
Big Ben has become the unofficial name for the clock tower and even people who know better now identify it as such but it's still wrong. It's the nickname for the Bell.
Probably named after Sir Benjamin Hall who oversaw the rebuilding of the Houses of Parliament.
Although there is no documentary evidence, the story goes that during a parliamentary debate over what to name the new bell Sir Hall, a large man, got up to give a long speech on the matter. After his various ideas about the bell were fielded another MP shouted out: "Why not call him Big Ben and have done with it?" The House erupted in laughter and the name stuck.

The Times reported at the time: "It is proposed to call our king of bells 'Big Ben', in honour of Sir Benjamin Hall, the president of the Board of Works, during whose tenure of office it was cast."
So ... name the bell after the guy who built the clock tower, but not the guy who made the bell. :think:

This rabbit hole just gets twistier the further down you travel.
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Re: Leftist Greed

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:17 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:07 pm
case in point, Canada 1981

not only was the top tax rate 70%

inflation was 13%

mortgage rates were 21%

the reality for my wife & I is not that the government screwed us

we've lived through the greatest free money party in history

the Millennnials are screwed, perhaps

but they are literally the worst generation in history who deserves everything coming to them

so it all worked out in the end

let's jig, ya'll

We've never had it so good?
Inflation was 22% when I was at school.
Then Maggie came along and reduced it to a reasonable level by putting everyone out of work.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: Leftist Greed

Post by StCapps » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:31 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:17 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:07 pm
case in point, Canada 1981

not only was the top tax rate 70%

inflation was 13%

mortgage rates were 21%

the reality for my wife & I is not that the government screwed us

we've lived through the greatest free money party in history

the Millennnials are screwed, perhaps

but they are literally the worst generation in history who deserves everything coming to them

so it all worked out in the end

let's jig, ya'll

We've never had it so good?
Inflation was 22% when I was at school.
Then Maggie came along and reduced it to a reasonable level by putting everyone out of work.
that's not how inflation came under control

the loss of jobs would have happened regardless

you could have had high unemployment and high inflation

if you stuck with the Labour plan

you should be thanking Maggie, not maligning her

she couldn't fix everything, bro
*yip*

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Re: Leftist Greed

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:35 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:17 pm
We've never had it so good?
I've gotten everything I've ever wanted and more, well beyond what I expected

but it's a Ponzi scheme and I'm a vampire squid, sucking the life out of the Millennials

which might bother me, if the Millennials weren't so repugnant

it all worked out, we lived the good life, the evil Millennials will be picking up the tab

Jig, ya'll

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Re: Leftist Greed

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:09 pm

StCapps wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:31 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:17 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:07 pm
case in point, Canada 1981

not only was the top tax rate 70%

inflation was 13%

mortgage rates were 21%

the reality for my wife & I is not that the government screwed us

we've lived through the greatest free money party in history

the Millennnials are screwed, perhaps

but they are literally the worst generation in history who deserves everything coming to them

so it all worked out in the end

let's jig, ya'll

We've never had it so good?
Inflation was 22% when I was at school.
Then Maggie came along and reduced it to a reasonable level by putting everyone out of work.
that's not how inflation came under control

the loss of jobs would have happened regardless

you could have had high unemployment and high inflation

if you stuck with the Labour plan

you should be thanking Maggie, not maligning her

she couldn't fix everything, bro
I thank Maggie for a few things.
Bringing the out of control unions under control for one.
There is no doubt her anti-inflationary measures cost jobs though as she simply outsourced uncompetitive industries like coal, steel and ship building to places like China, India and South Korea.
Thatcher and Reagan were the mother and father of Globalisation which is a fact the right like to ignore.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: Leftist Greed

Post by StCapps » Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:19 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:09 pm
StCapps wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:31 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:17 pm


We've never had it so good?
Inflation was 22% when I was at school.
Then Maggie came along and reduced it to a reasonable level by putting everyone out of work.
that's not how inflation came under control

the loss of jobs would have happened regardless

you could have had high unemployment and high inflation

if you stuck with the Labour plan

you should be thanking Maggie, not maligning her

she couldn't fix everything, bro
I thank Maggie for a few things.
Bringing the out of control unions under control for one.
There is no doubt her anti-inflationary measures cost jobs though as she simply outsourced uncompetitive industries like coal, steel and ship building to places like China, India and South Korea.
Thatcher and Reagan were the mother and father of Globalisation which is a fact the right like to ignore.
those jobs were going away anyway

the genie wasn't going back in the bottle

Reagan and Thatcher simply realized this and tried to make the best of it
*yip*

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Re: Leftist Greed

Post by DBTrek » Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:34 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:35 pm

I've gotten everything I've ever wanted and more, well beyond what I expected

but it's a Ponzi scheme and I'm a vampire squid, sucking the life out of the Millennials

which might bother me, if the Millennials weren't so repugnant

it all worked out, we lived the good life, the evil Millennials will be picking up the tab

Ah, so you're the guy the president was talking about.
"Hey varmints, don't mess with a guy that's riding a buffalo"

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Re: Leftist Greed

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:45 pm

StCapps wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:19 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:09 pm
StCapps wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:31 pm
that's not how inflation came under control

the loss of jobs would have happened regardless

you could have had high unemployment and high inflation

if you stuck with the Labour plan

you should be thanking Maggie, not maligning her

she couldn't fix everything, bro
I thank Maggie for a few things.
Bringing the out of control unions under control for one.
There is no doubt her anti-inflationary measures cost jobs though as she simply outsourced uncompetitive industries like coal, steel and ship building to places like China, India and South Korea.
Thatcher and Reagan were the mother and father of Globalisation which is a fact the right like to ignore.
those jobs were going away anyway

the genie wasn't going back in the bottle

Reagan and Thatcher simply realized this and tried to make the best of it
Yup, they used globalisation to reduce inflation.
Maggie even spoke about it saying ''there is no alternative'' (to globalisation) in one of her more famous speeches.

She was also a leader in the environmental cause until big business persuaded her to change her mind.

That's enough praise of the Milk Snatcher from me in one post. I'm feeling slightly nauseous now and need a lie down.
ps the Falklands are British, back off Buenos Aires.
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Re: Leftist Greed

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:49 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:34 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:35 pm

I've gotten everything I've ever wanted and more, well beyond what I expected

but it's a Ponzi scheme and I'm a vampire squid, sucking the life out of the Millennials

which might bother me, if the Millennials weren't so repugnant

it all worked out, we lived the good life, the evil Millennials will be picking up the tab

Ah, so you're the guy the president was talking about.
well I didn't make a move on the little dears until they were legal adults

when they were actually "kids" I tried to reason with them

but the kids were going to drink the Neoliberal kool-aid almost just to spite us

so eventually I had to wash my hands of them
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