Montegriffo wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:04 pm
Big Ben has become the unofficial name for the clock tower and even people who know better now identify it as such but it's still wrong. It's the nickname for the Bell.
Probably named after Sir Benjamin Hall who oversaw the rebuilding of the Houses of Parliament.
Although there is no documentary evidence, the story goes that during a parliamentary debate over what to name the new bell Sir Hall, a large man, got up to give a long speech on the matter. After his various ideas about the bell were fielded another MP shouted out: "Why not call him Big Ben and have done with it?" The House erupted in laughter and the name stuck.
The Times reported at the time: "It is proposed to call our king of bells 'Big Ben', in honour of Sir Benjamin Hall, the president of the Board of Works, during whose tenure of office it was cast."
So ... name the bell after the guy who built the clock tower, but not the guy who made the bell.
This rabbit hole just gets twistier the further down you travel.
Smitty-48 wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:07 pm
case in point, Canada 1981
not only was the top tax rate 70%
inflation was 13%
mortgage rates were 21%
the reality for my wife & I is not that the government screwed us
we've lived through the greatest free money party in history
the Millennnials are screwed, perhaps
but they are literally the worst generation in history who deserves everything coming to them
so it all worked out in the end
let's jig, ya'll
We've never had it so good?
Inflation was 22% when I was at school.
Then Maggie came along and reduced it to a reasonable level by putting everyone out of work.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
Smitty-48 wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:07 pm
case in point, Canada 1981
not only was the top tax rate 70%
inflation was 13%
mortgage rates were 21%
the reality for my wife & I is not that the government screwed us
we've lived through the greatest free money party in history
the Millennnials are screwed, perhaps
but they are literally the worst generation in history who deserves everything coming to them
so it all worked out in the end
let's jig, ya'll
We've never had it so good?
Inflation was 22% when I was at school.
Then Maggie came along and reduced it to a reasonable level by putting everyone out of work.
that's not how inflation came under control
the loss of jobs would have happened regardless
you could have had high unemployment and high inflation
Smitty-48 wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:07 pm
case in point, Canada 1981
not only was the top tax rate 70%
inflation was 13%
mortgage rates were 21%
the reality for my wife & I is not that the government screwed us
we've lived through the greatest free money party in history
the Millennnials are screwed, perhaps
but they are literally the worst generation in history who deserves everything coming to them
so it all worked out in the end
let's jig, ya'll
We've never had it so good?
Inflation was 22% when I was at school.
Then Maggie came along and reduced it to a reasonable level by putting everyone out of work.
that's not how inflation came under control
the loss of jobs would have happened regardless
you could have had high unemployment and high inflation
if you stuck with the Labour plan
you should be thanking Maggie, not maligning her
she couldn't fix everything, bro
I thank Maggie for a few things.
Bringing the out of control unions under control for one.
There is no doubt her anti-inflationary measures cost jobs though as she simply outsourced uncompetitive industries like coal, steel and ship building to places like China, India and South Korea.
Thatcher and Reagan were the mother and father of Globalisation which is a fact the right like to ignore.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
We've never had it so good?
Inflation was 22% when I was at school.
Then Maggie came along and reduced it to a reasonable level by putting everyone out of work.
that's not how inflation came under control
the loss of jobs would have happened regardless
you could have had high unemployment and high inflation
if you stuck with the Labour plan
you should be thanking Maggie, not maligning her
she couldn't fix everything, bro
I thank Maggie for a few things.
Bringing the out of control unions under control for one.
There is no doubt her anti-inflationary measures cost jobs though as she simply outsourced uncompetitive industries like coal, steel and ship building to places like China, India and South Korea.
Thatcher and Reagan were the mother and father of Globalisation which is a fact the right like to ignore.
those jobs were going away anyway
the genie wasn't going back in the bottle
Reagan and Thatcher simply realized this and tried to make the best of it
StCapps wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:31 pm
that's not how inflation came under control
the loss of jobs would have happened regardless
you could have had high unemployment and high inflation
if you stuck with the Labour plan
you should be thanking Maggie, not maligning her
she couldn't fix everything, bro
I thank Maggie for a few things.
Bringing the out of control unions under control for one.
There is no doubt her anti-inflationary measures cost jobs though as she simply outsourced uncompetitive industries like coal, steel and ship building to places like China, India and South Korea.
Thatcher and Reagan were the mother and father of Globalisation which is a fact the right like to ignore.
those jobs were going away anyway
the genie wasn't going back in the bottle
Reagan and Thatcher simply realized this and tried to make the best of it
Yup, they used globalisation to reduce inflation.
Maggie even spoke about it saying ''there is no alternative'' (to globalisation) in one of her more famous speeches.
She was also a leader in the environmental cause until big business persuaded her to change her mind.
That's enough praise of the Milk Snatcher from me in one post. I'm feeling slightly nauseous now and need a lie down.
ps the Falklands are British, back off Buenos Aires.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
