Starbucks declares free WiFi and bathroom for homeless

[Fife]

My sister lives in a town of 2,500 people. I can get breakfast for three there for $12 + tip.

Your sister charges you for breakfast?
That’s cold.

Pricey.

[Okeefenokee]

He knows who owns every store in the big apple because he went there once, and he knows the big corporations run all the farms because he planted some tomatoes in his backyard.

Take notes, people.

[Kath]

You pick some weird hills to die on.

I told him in the decline thread that his nonsense posting has been on the rise. I can't fathom why he thinks you can't own a small business in Manhattan. They are literally everywhere.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Have you ever been to Manhattan?

Once, and did not enjoy it. I'm no expert on it, but I do know that the real estate prices are particularly insane there.

The real estate prices are a given. I recently cashed out of the Bay Area market which runs neck and neck with Manhattan. Entrepreneurs still exist even in those markets. The cost to play the game doesn't necessarily make the game prohibitive to play. A quick Google and there are several "Mom and Pop" type businesses in Manhattan on this list by Business Insider.

You pick some weird hills to die on.

http://www.businessinsider.com/coolest- ... se-board-8

I didn't even pick it!

Kath posted an article weeping for the 'little guys' that were hurt in Manhattan by the wicked wall street protesters. I simply dared to doubt that they were really 'mom n pop' joints.

Obviously, OWS turned into a bit of a shit-show, and was effectively neutralized by the establishment. I think it was a massive lost opportunity, but an interesting display of how the system protects itself. That's about it.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Your sister charges you for breakfast?
That’s cold.

Pricey.

That's actually my ideal menu at a diner.

[Kath]

I simply dared to doubt that they were really 'mom n pop' joints.

And you were proven wrong, repeatedly, for pages, and yet you still claim you can't own a small business in Manhattan.

[Speaker to Animals]

Urban politics don't really discourage small businesses at all. Chicago is covered in them. I suspect the political machine prefers it because it is not really possible to shake down corporations with all the P2P bribery schemes. Walmart is a lot more powerful than an alderman or some building inspector.

[SuburbanFarmer]

I simply dared to doubt that they were really 'mom n pop' joints.

And you were proven wrong, repeatedly, for pages, and yet you still claim you can't own a small business in Manhattan.

Whatever helps close this little trip down the rabbit hole, I guess.

[Haumana]

I didn't even pick it!

Kath posted an article weeping for the 'little guys' that were hurt in Manhattan by the wicked wall street protesters. I simply dared to doubt that they were really 'mom n pop' joints.

So you do think that there are mom n pop shops in Manhattan but they weren't represented in the article? Because it sure seemed like you were arguing that there are no mom n pop shops in Manhattan at all. Why else post the square footage cost of real estate?

[SuburbanFarmer]

I didn't even pick it!

Kath posted an article weeping for the 'little guys' that were hurt in Manhattan by the wicked wall street protesters. I simply dared to doubt that they were really 'mom n pop' joints.

So you do think that there are mom n pop shops in Manhattan but they weren't represented in the article? Because it sure seemed like you were arguing that there are no mom n pop shops in Manhattan at all. Why else post the square footage cost of real estate?

I sincerely doubt that there are many. I could be wrong, but the kind of money that it would take to open one in the last century is quite prohibitive.

Regardless, to cast shade on OWS because of some isolated incident or two involving a genuine mom n' pop joint is pretty disingenuous at best. I really don't see how it fits into the story at all, other than as a side note. It's not a good thing, but it certainly doesn't change my opinion of the overall event in the slightest.