America’s forgotten towns: Can they be saved or should people just leave?

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Re: America’s forgotten towns: Can they be saved or should people just leave?

Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:33 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Long haul freight trains don’t take everything to a single destination. They go to freight yards (routers), and each car is routed to the next train (link) toward the destination, or offloaded onto trucks (subnets).

Also, they’re all electric-driven. Diesel just runs the generator in the engine. It’s the same thing.

Uh huh..

Which is not comparable at all.

The degree of the nodes is your problem. I want more nodes with lower degrees, more connections overall but not necessarily huge hubs like a rail yard, and smaller pods that are automatically routed. No need to connect cars to train engines. Trains don't work anything like that.

All that should matter is that a pod has an end destination. You don't have to latch a series of them together. You just put it in the system and it gets routed automatically, with various load-balancing and traffic management algorithms doing the optimization and routing. It doesn't run on fossil fuels. It doesn't impact surface traffic. You could even have connections down the house level.

I.e. not a fucking train system at all.
Yes, I know what you're talking about. Approximately 5 million miles of elevated track, going to every large town in America, with self-propelled freight cars, directed by a routing system.

And I'm telling you that it would be obscenely expensive. We're already broke, dude.
Cars cost more than horses. Interstate highways cost more than dirt roads. Guess we'll never see cars or highways. herp a fucking derp.
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Re: America’s forgotten towns: Can they be saved or should people just leave?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:03 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:

Uh huh..

Which is not comparable at all.

The degree of the nodes is your problem. I want more nodes with lower degrees, more connections overall but not necessarily huge hubs like a rail yard, and smaller pods that are automatically routed. No need to connect cars to train engines. Trains don't work anything like that.

All that should matter is that a pod has an end destination. You don't have to latch a series of them together. You just put it in the system and it gets routed automatically, with various load-balancing and traffic management algorithms doing the optimization and routing. It doesn't run on fossil fuels. It doesn't impact surface traffic. You could even have connections down the house level.

I.e. not a fucking train system at all.
Yes, I know what you're talking about. Approximately 5 million miles of elevated track, going to every large town in America, with self-propelled freight cars, directed by a routing system.

And I'm telling you that it would be obscenely expensive. We're already broke, dude.
Cars cost more than horses. Interstate highways cost more than dirt roads. Guess we'll never see cars or highways. herp a fucking derp.
Got another$20 trillion sitting around, go for it.
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Re: America’s forgotten towns: Can they be saved or should people just leave?

Post by Okeefenokee » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:38 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Yes, I know what you're talking about. Approximately 5 million miles of elevated track, going to every large town in America, with self-propelled freight cars, directed by a routing system.

And I'm telling you that it would be obscenely expensive. We're already broke, dude.
Cars cost more than horses. Interstate highways cost more than dirt roads. Guess we'll never see cars or highways. herp a fucking derp.
Got another$20 trillion sitting around, go for it.
I've never ever met anyone so economically ignorant.

A pile of money sitting around waiting to be spent did not exist when millions of cars replaced millions of horses, nor did it exist when millions of miles of paved roads and railroads replaced thousands of miles of dirt trails. derp a lerp.
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Re: America’s forgotten towns: Can they be saved or should people just leave?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:52 am

Okeefenokee wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
Cars cost more than horses. Interstate highways cost more than dirt roads. Guess we'll never see cars or highways. herp a fucking derp.
Got another$20 trillion sitting around, go for it.
I've never ever met anyone so economically ignorant.

A pile of money sitting around waiting to be spent did not exist when millions of cars replaced millions of horses, nor did it exist when millions of miles of paved roads and railroads replaced thousands of miles of dirt trails. derp a lerp.
It should only take a century or so to pay off. I don't know why some gigantic company hasn't already started this project.

Clearly, no way that this couldn't make economic sense. Okee-verified and approved.
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Re: America’s forgotten towns: Can they be saved or should people just leave?

Post by Okeefenokee » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:54 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Got another$20 trillion sitting around, go for it.
I've never ever met anyone so economically ignorant.

A pile of money sitting around waiting to be spent did not exist when millions of cars replaced millions of horses, nor did it exist when millions of miles of paved roads and railroads replaced thousands of miles of dirt trails. derp a lerp.
It should only take a century or so to pay off. I don't know why some gigantic company hasn't already started this project.

Clearly, no way that this couldn't make economic sense. Okee-verified and approved.
Cars and trains will take too long to pay off. Why don't you just carry it on your head? Some juggling faggot said it's the most efficient form of transport.

You're an idiot.
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Re: America’s forgotten towns: Can they be saved or should people just leave?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:56 am

Okeefenokee wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
I've never ever met anyone so economically ignorant.

A pile of money sitting around waiting to be spent did not exist when millions of cars replaced millions of horses, nor did it exist when millions of miles of paved roads and railroads replaced thousands of miles of dirt trails. derp a lerp.
It should only take a century or so to pay off. I don't know why some gigantic company hasn't already started this project.

Clearly, no way that this couldn't make economic sense. Okee-verified and approved.
Cars and trains will take too long to pay off. Why don't you just carry it on your head? Some juggling faggot said it's the most efficient form of transport.

You're an idiot.
I'm so glad that you're here with your folksy homespun solutions to all of our questions. I don't know where we'd be without this.
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Re: America’s forgotten towns: Can they be saved or should people just leave?

Post by Okeefenokee » Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:07 am

Go smoke a bowl, and tell yourself more of your dumbass college freshman horseshit.

/bonghit. You know maaannn, there's not gonna be any more gas in a couple of years. This is the end of automobile. /cough. Like, we don't even have the money to fix the bridges. When they fall down, that's it. No more bridges man. The money's all gone. /bonghit
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Re: America’s forgotten towns: Can they be saved or should people just leave?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:09 am

When you're done beating your kids for the evening, take a minute between Bud Lights to think about that big ol' world out there, and how simple it all is. All them silly people runnin' around and making up stuff to sound important. You've got it all figured out, and didn't even have to try. It's all just a game, brother. Just a game.
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