C-Mag wrote:I don't reject this Doc. I see it as a little more nuanced.Speaker to Animals wrote: Another thing..
It's not political Islam, or radical Islam, or any other modifier to Islam that is at war with the western world. It's Islam, period. Yes, many people who call themselves Muslim don't agree with it, but the war with the west is baked into the cake, written in black and white by their prophet Mohammad. War with the west is as much a part of Islam as the personal war against sin is part of Christianity. There are lots of so-called Christians who think sin is no big deal any more, but that doesn't somehow redefine what Christianity is any more than the "moderate" Muslims can redefine what Islam is.
Islam is designed to be the enemy of our civilization. We enjoyed a relatively brief two centuries where Islam was not trying to kill us. Other than that, it's always been like this. They don't belong here any more than we belong there.
And to those who want to make these silly distinctions between the "good" Islam and the "bad" Islam, consider there is no moral boundary ISIS crosses that Mohammad didn't cross himself. Exterminating entire groups of people: check. Enslaving women as sex slaves: check. 10 year old child brides: check. Throwing homosexuals off towers: check. ISIS *is* Islam. ISIS is Islam reemerging from the mess created by our trying to recast the region into our own image in the previous century.
The reason I don't reject this is that while not every Muslim reject this, there has never been a strong voice internally to arise in Islam that has made any dent in the blood thirsty attacks. When asked, Muslims generally support Sharia practices that are in direct conflict with Western Civil Rights.
However, Islam is as diverse as Christianity in belief and obedience to the written religion. There's a lot of Muslims that drink and do whatever. Using the term Political Islam is accurate to me. The issue is that when the political system within the teachings of the Quran are applied it is in direct conflict with Civil Rights.
But even in Christianity, saying that it's "diverse" in that context is erroneous. There have ALWAYS been groups who called themselves "Christian" with the purpose of destroying Christianity. This has been going on since day one with the Gnostics. Today we see people, mostly in the high protestant churches, who are embracing degeneracy and sin as normal goods, but they are not really Christians. Christianity is right there in Gospels. We can argue about deeper theological questions, but the evangelical guy is as much christian as the trad catholic in the context of at least trying to live the life according to the Gospel. Those two don't disagree on what sin is or how we are essentially supposed to live our lives.
It's the same in Islam. People who say Islam is not really about jihad and making war on the rest of the world are as much Muslim as the pro-gay marriage catholic guy is a Christian. It's just a farce that contradicts the entire foundation of the religion.
The people actually living out the instructions of the Koran are ISIS. ISIS isn't doing anything that Muslims didn't do for over a thousand years before them. ISIS is Islam.
