“More Democrats Should Be Calling for the Repeal of the Second Amendment”

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Re: “More Democrats Should Be Calling for the Repeal of the Second Amendment”

Post by Fife » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:57 pm

Who is familiar with the history of the Philadelphia compromises that led to the Bill of Rights (in exchange for approval of the federal constitution) in the first place?

No thinking person at the time thought that Amendments I-X were anything more than redundant window-dressings.

Who knew John Marshall was waiting in the wings to make the verbiage the path to American Revolution 2.0 / Civil War 1.0?

Pro tip: Lawyers fuck up pretty much everything, fam.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:59 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:I wonder if it would be much worse than merely a civil war. The world peace is held together by stability in the US, the premier nuclear power
I wouldn't put it past one and/or both of the parties to the conflict to deploy nuclear weapons internally, Dixie was after all, essentially nuked in slow motion.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:12 pm

It’s obvious that the central tenet of the Democrat Party platform is now hatred and contempt for Normal Americans. Taking their cue from the elites in Europe and Canada who are stripping dissenters of their free speech rights and religious freedoms, the leftist elite is moving to solidify its hold on power here with the eager assistance of tech companies and the moral support of the Fredocons who yearn to return to pseudo-relevance as the ruling class’s slobberingly loyal opposition. In California, the leftist government is practically firing on Fort Sumter. And nationally, these aspiring fascists are especially eager to disarm Normal Americans – doing so would be an object lesson in who’s the boss, as well as solving that frustrating problem of the Normals having the ability to resist.

Probably because I’ve spent time where they actually had a civil war, many people ask me – people whose names you know – whether I think this turmoil will all end in a Second Civil War. They are seriously concerned, and not without cause – the left’s hatred for Normal Americans and its dedication to totally stripping the people who are the backbone of this country of their ability to participate in their own governance is threatening to rip the country apart.

Do I think there will be a civil war? No, but there could be. This is the Age of Black Swans, and anything is possible – we could easily see the country split into red and blue. Civil war is unlikely, but never underestimate Democrat stupidity and hatred. The Schlichter family learned that lesson a century and half ago, the last time the Democrats decided to try to impose their hatred of basic human rights on the rest of the country, when an army of Democrats burned our family hometown.

Oh, they paid for it. And they would pay again. Democrats are 0-1 in insurrections, and if they went for another round, they would be 0-2. It’s a matter of terrain, numbers, and morale.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:20 pm

I don't actually put the chances of civil war as unlikely, rather civil war can simply come in degradations, Americans have one model of civil war in their minds, Fort Sumter to Appomattox Court House, and perhaps that is unlikely, but that's not the only model for a civil war, I would actually submit, that America is borderline on the threshold of British Ulster levels of civil war, right now.

Bear in mind, there were only 14 people killed at the Bogside Massacre, doesn't actually take that much, once the kindling is laid.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:36 pm

I think we already are there, honestly.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:41 pm

I think the levels of violence are there, I just don't think they've become politicized as of yet, there are bombings, there are mass shootings, but they have not yet reached the threshold of organized political violence, to wit warfare per se, but I don't think it would take that much to make the leap from where it is now.

Definitely flirting around the edges tho.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:48 pm

That is to say, the only thing separating Timothy McVeigh from the Provisional Irish Republican Army, is a chain of command.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:55 pm

And bear in mind, in the early days, the Clinton Administration believed that there could indeed be a chain of command behind that bombing, and they were freaking the fuck out about it.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:02 pm

It's like, the Parkland students were shot and then they were incited to rally around their already ingrained Gun Grabber tendencies, I would say the sea change could come, when the little dearies are being shot, because they are Gun Grabbers.
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Re: “More Democrats Should Be Calling for the Repeal of the Second Amendment”

Post by Zlaxer » Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:05 pm

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-des ... -civil-war

America’s stability is increasingly an undercurrent in political discourse. Earlier this year, I began a conversation with Keith Mines about America’s turmoil. Mines has spent his career—in the U.S. Army Special Forces, the United Nations, and now the State Department—navigating civil wars in other countries, including Afghanistan, Colombia, El Salvador, Iraq, Somalia, and Sudan. He returned to Washington after sixteen years to find conditions that he had seen nurture conflict abroad now visible at home. It haunts him. In March, Mines was one of several national-security experts whom Foreign Policy asked to evaluate the risks of a second civil war—with percentages. Mines concluded that the United States faces a sixty-per-cent chance of civil war over the next ten to fifteen years. Other experts’ predictions ranged from five per cent to ninety-five per cent. The sobering consensus was thirty-five per cent. And that was five months before Charlottesville.