America’s forgotten towns: Can they be saved or should people just leave?

[Speaker to Animals]

I certainly hope it's that easy.

[Martin Hash]

I certainly hope it's that easy.

As Emperor Hash, I will make it so.

p.s. Really, fighting vested self-interest is the impossible job, not the technical stuff.

[Speaker to Animals]

I certainly hope it's that easy.

As Emperor Hash, I will make it so.

p.s. Really, fighting vested self-interest is the impossible job, not the technical stuff.

We'd need quite a lot of nuclear power plants to produce the same amount of electricity that is equivalent to what we burn in fossil fuels for transportation.

[Speaker to Animals]

I mean.. realistically, we could build as many nuclear power plants as needed. I still think it would be better to distribute the population into smaller communities and connect them with maglev rail or something along those lines. We shouldn't be transporting cargo on the highways like we do.

I have always liked the idea of creating a cargo pipeline network that routes pods sort of like how we route IP packets.

[SuburbanFarmer]

I mean.. realistically, we could build as many nuclear power plants as needed. I still think it would be better to distribute the population into smaller communities and connect them with maglev rail or something along those lines. We shouldn't be transporting cargo on the highways like we do.

I have always liked the idea of creating a cargo pipeline network that routes pods sort of like how we route IP packets.

That's more or less what the railroad system does. Making it maglev would be astronomically expensive. Probably the annual budget of the MIC for a year.

[Speaker to Animals]

I mean.. realistically, we could build as many nuclear power plants as needed. I still think it would be better to distribute the population into smaller communities and connect them with maglev rail or something along those lines. We shouldn't be transporting cargo on the highways like we do.

I have always liked the idea of creating a cargo pipeline network that routes pods sort of like how we route IP packets.

That's more or less what the railroad system does. Making it maglev would be astronomically expensive. Probably the annual budget of the MIC for a year.

It's nothing like what the railroad does. Not the same thing at all. You don't understand what I was talking about.

[SuburbanFarmer]

I mean.. realistically, we could build as many nuclear power plants as needed. I still think it would be better to distribute the population into smaller communities and connect them with maglev rail or something along those lines. We shouldn't be transporting cargo on the highways like we do.

I have always liked the idea of creating a cargo pipeline network that routes pods sort of like how we route IP packets.

That's more or less what the railroad system does. Making it maglev would be astronomically expensive. Probably the annual budget of the MIC for a year.

It's nothing like what the railroad does. Not the same thing at all. You don't understand what I was talking about.

Long haul freight trains don’t take everything to a single destination. They go to freight yards (routers), and each car is routed to the next train (link) toward the destination, or offloaded onto trucks (subnets).

Also, they’re all electric-driven. Diesel just runs the generator in the engine. It’s the same thing.

[Martin Hash]

20th Century thinking. Autonomous vehicles don’t need rails. Where people live is immaterial.

[Speaker to Animals]

That's more or less what the railroad system does. Making it maglev would be astronomically expensive. Probably the annual budget of the MIC for a year.

It's nothing like what the railroad does. Not the same thing at all. You don't understand what I was talking about.

Long haul freight trains don’t take everything to a single destination. They go to freight yards (routers), and each car is routed to the next train (link) toward the destination, or offloaded onto trucks (subnets).

Also, they’re all electric-driven. Diesel just runs the generator in the engine. It’s the same thing.

Uh huh..

Which is not comparable at all.

The degree of the nodes is your problem. I want more nodes with lower degrees, more connections overall but not necessarily huge hubs like a rail yard, and smaller pods that are automatically routed. No need to connect cars to train engines. Trains don't work anything like that.

All that should matter is that a pod has an end destination. You don't have to latch a series of them together. You just put it in the system and it gets routed automatically, with various load-balancing and traffic management algorithms doing the optimization and routing. It doesn't run on fossil fuels. It doesn't impact surface traffic. You could even have connections down the house level.

I.e. not a fucking train system at all.

[SuburbanFarmer]

It's nothing like what the railroad does. Not the same thing at all. You don't understand what I was talking about.

Long haul freight trains don’t take everything to a single destination. They go to freight yards (routers), and each car is routed to the next train (link) toward the destination, or offloaded onto trucks (subnets).

Also, they’re all electric-driven. Diesel just runs the generator in the engine. It’s the same thing.

Uh huh..

Which is not comparable at all.

The degree of the nodes is your problem. I want more nodes with lower degrees, more connections overall but not necessarily huge hubs like a rail yard, and smaller pods that are automatically routed. No need to connect cars to train engines. Trains don't work anything like that.

All that should matter is that a pod has an end destination. You don't have to latch a series of them together. You just put it in the system and it gets routed automatically, with various load-balancing and traffic management algorithms doing the optimization and routing. It doesn't run on fossil fuels. It doesn't impact surface traffic. You could even have connections down the house level.

I.e. not a fucking train system at all.

Yes, I know what you're talking about. Approximately 5 million miles of elevated track, going to every large town in America, with self-propelled freight cars, directed by a routing system.

And I'm telling you that it would be obscenely expensive. We're already broke, dude.