Europe, Boring Until it's Not

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

What the fuck was Poland? Nobody gave a shit about Poland, sold the Czechs down the river, what's a few Poles on top? Half the Poles sided with the Nazis, the Poles were collaborators, why did we blow the world up for the Poles again?

If the Entente Cordiale hadn't staked its reputation on balderdash Peace In Our Time, they could have just got out of the way and let the Germans fight Stalin, as had been the plan all along.

If, in that moment, everybody could have been briefed as to what was coming? If the French knew, that France would fall, for Poland? If the British knew, that what was left of the Empire would fall, for Poland?

Sayonara, Poland, you're not worth blowing the whole Kibbutz over.

I suppose decision making would be a lot easier if we could simply scry the future.

[Smitty-48]

What the fuck was Poland? Nobody gave a shit about Poland, sold the Czechs down the river, what's a few Poles on top? Half the Poles sided with the Nazis, the Poles were collaborators, why did we blow the world up for the Poles again?

If the Entente Cordiale hadn't staked its reputation on balderdash Peace In Our Time, they could have just got out of the way and let the Germans fight Stalin, as had been the plan all along.

If, in that moment, everybody could have been briefed as to what was coming? If the French knew, that France would fall, for Poland? If the British knew, that what was left of the Empire would fall, for Poland?

Sayonara, Poland, you're not worth blowing the whole Kibbutz over.

I suppose decision making would be a lot easier if we could simply scry the future.

Except they should have known, they certainly knew it was going to be bad, they just thought it was going to be back to the trenches on the Western Front, they weren't expecting the Germans to rout them in six weeks, but it's not like they didn't know they were getting themselves into some seriously deep shit, which they had no plan for, again, for Poland, and Peace In Our Time.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

I would imagine that it had more to do with not wanting to look like you were a total pushover than Peace in Our Time. They kept telling Germany to cut the shit, and eventually, you need to do more than finger wagging, or everyone will think you are a mark-ass trick.

[Ph64]

I would imagine that it had more to do with not wanting to look like you were a total pushover than Peace in Our Time. They kept telling Germany to cut the shit, and eventually, you need to do more than finger wagging, or everyone will think you are a mark-ass trick.

The UK still has problems getting that it seems...

[Otern]

The French were the aggressors all along, the Germans were simply defending themselves, the French caused all the problems, the Germans simply became reactionary to being attacked by the French over and over.

Napoleon I attacked and subjugated the Prussians, Napoleon III provoked the Franco-Prussian War, the French Republic sided with the Russian Czar attacking the Germans, the French imposed the harshest terms at Versailles, and the French declared war on Nazi Germany, not the other way round.

If the British had just stuck to minding India and the Far East instead of trying to save the Franco-Russian aggressors from themselves, there never would have been any wars of British Hegmonic Succession in the first place, and so no Jewish-Bolshevik Conspiracy therein, the Germans didn't make the Nazis, the Entente Cordiale did, before the Entente Cordiale crushed them on behalf of the Russians, the Germans were the most humane and civilized of them all.

If we had been attacked from all sides, starved to the brink by a Wall Street funded blockade, suffered two million killed, four million wounded, lost three quarters of a million civilians on top, then had our nation subjugated even though we never actually capitulated on the battlefield, and were then pummeled in rapid succession by the Treaty of Versailles followed by the total collapse of the Wiemar Republic in the Great Depression? We'd have all been Nazis too.

Why was Hitler popular? He jumped started the economy out of the ditch, threw off the shackles of reparations, took back the territories lost at Versailles nary a shot fired, and was the bulwark against the looming menace of Stalin and the Bolsheviks, simple as that, if Anglo-Americans had been in that situation, we would have been all for it, sieg heil.

No, this explains the fascism part of Germany. And lots of countries were fascists. And lots of countries have been fucked over by their neighbors far worse than Germany.

Germany during the Weimar republic was a far better place than Russia in the nineties. They didn't get fucked over as much as Russia was during the nineties from foreign business, and a collaborative effort in the west to keep the cold war going. Yet, the Russians didn't radicalize into nazis or anything like it as a result of this. Putin is pretty much a fascist by western standards, but compared to other rulers of Russia, he's pretty liberal.

Germany and France has been fucking each other over since Bismarck, yet the french didn't even fall for fascism at any point. Not communism, not fascism, not nazism. Sure, they turned pretty authoritarian at certain points, and could be pretty brutal, especially during the seventies. But they never truly fell.

No real resistance against Hitler existed in Germany. The plots against him only started to come to fruition after the officers realized he was making Germany lose, rather than win.

[Speaker to Animals]

I would imagine that it had more to do with not wanting to look like you were a total pushover than Peace in Our Time. They kept telling Germany to cut the shit, and eventually, you need to do more than finger wagging, or everyone will think you are a mark-ass trick.

The UK still has problems getting that it seems...

This guy is straight out of Snatch.

[ssu]

No real resistance against Hitler existed in Germany. The plots against him only started to come to fruition after the officers realized he was making Germany lose, rather than win.

Oh, now real attempts to assassinate him?

1934 Berlin Arnold Diggerman
1934 Berlin Helmut Mylius
1935 Berlin Marwitz group
1935 Berlin Paul Josef Stuermer
December 20, 1936 Nuremberg Helmut Hirsch
1937 Berlin Josef Thomas
1937 Berlin Unknown man in SS uniform
September 28, 1938 Berlin Oster Conspiracy; not executed due to conclusion of Munich Agreement
November 9, 1938 Munich Maurice Bavaud
1939 Berlin Erich Kordt
October 5, 1939 Warsaw Michał Karaszewicz-Tokarzewski,[2] Service for Poland's Victory
November 8, 1939 Munich Johann Georg Elser
1941 Berlin Nikolaus von Halem

[Otern]

No real resistance against Hitler existed in Germany. The plots against him only started to come to fruition after the officers realized he was making Germany lose, rather than win.

Oh, now real attempts to assassinate him?

1934 Berlin Arnold Diggerman
1934 Berlin Helmut Mylius
1935 Berlin Marwitz group
1935 Berlin Paul Josef Stuermer
December 20, 1936 Nuremberg Helmut Hirsch
1937 Berlin Josef Thomas
1937 Berlin Unknown man in SS uniform
September 28, 1938 Berlin Oster Conspiracy; not executed due to conclusion of Munich Agreement
November 9, 1938 Munich Maurice Bavaud
1939 Berlin Erich Kordt
October 5, 1939 Warsaw Michał Karaszewicz-Tokarzewski,[2] Service for Poland's Victory
November 8, 1939 Munich Johann Georg Elser
1941 Berlin Nikolaus von Halem

Never said no assassination attempts.

No real resistance. Sure, you'll find some people that tried to, but nothing you could call a resistance movement. The nazis just had to kill three members of the White Rose "movement" to end it. It wasn't a movement. The three students were heroes, and Germany do not deserve the right to call them "their" heroes, as they do today.

[ssu]

And it's totally reasonable that people didn't think that Hitler would lead Germany to utter ruin. The most incredible parts of the ideology one could diss away with the idea that realpolitik will take care of the most silly ideas. Well, it didn't.

Besides, when you have improving economic situation for many, there simply won't be resistance. Let's just remember that only a decade earlier there had been the Communist Revolution and all these collective ideologies of the 20th Century didn't have the burden of all those piles of bodies killed in their sake that we in hindsight see a the obvious conclusion.

[C-Mag]

Khan’s London: Lead Surgeon Says Hospital Like Afghan War Zone, Two More Killed Overnight

Wednesday night’s killings, both in Hackney, East London, brought the death toll from suspected murder in the capital to 50 so far this year, pulling away from New York City, which London overtook at the weekend.
Dr. Mark Griffiths, the lead surgeon at Barts Health NHS Trust in East London, said that knife and gun wounds had moved from a “niche” part of his job to a daily chunk of his workload, and a growing number of victims were “children”.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/04 ... overnight/

The UK really needs to think about repealing their 2nd Amendment, it's just too dangerous allowing people to have these weapons.