Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by SilverEagle » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:46 am

Kath wrote:
C-Mag wrote:It's good to see old members posting. DBtrek, Kath, Smitty, Bjorn, etc.

If I had known that all we needed to do was to get Trump to bomb someone and all my old friends from DCF would should up again I would have pushed for it sooner :shifty:
It was this president finally doing something resembling presidential. If he's going to be commander in chief instead of toddler in chief, I'll get behind him when he's doing things right. I always said I would. Nothing has changed.
Fuck that. I would prefer we did not bomb them. Stay out of foreign entanglements! I mean our meddling in the middle east since the early 90's has went SOOOOOOOO well for us and all. :snooty: Now we hit Russia's ally. Not a great move IMO. Cold War 2.0 incoming and all because of a damn pipeline that S.A. wants run through Syria but the media will never talk about that little nugget.
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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by kybkh » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:47 am

C-Mag wrote:It's good to see old members posting. DBtrek, Kath, Smitty, Bjorn, etc.

If I had known that all we needed to do was to get Trump to bomb someone and all my old friends from DCF would should up again I would have pushed for it sooner :shifty:
There is always a fall off after an election cycle, even when we were at DCF usually everyone unplugged for a while. It is good to see when "Real News" happens most will at least pop back in to say hey.
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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by apeman » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:48 am

Kath wrote:It was this president finally doing something resembling presidential. If he's going to be commander in chief instead of toddler in chief, I'll get behind him when he's doing things right. I always said I would. Nothing has changed.
Either I'm losing it or you are.

Not sure.

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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by BjornP » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:50 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:

No. I amsaying.. if it were sarin, the responders in that video would also be dead. It's more likey chlorine, assuming that video is credible at all.

And chlorine exposure would support the Russian claim that they hit a rebel ammunition dump containing chlorine. The rebels, after all, have been using chlorine as a chemical weapon for years now.

That's just taking the video and photos at face value. I have no idea when that footage was taken, the circumstances, or really anything about it. People are throwing some youtube videos in my face and acting surprised I don't believe the IC.

Get real.

And the responders in that photo were an NGO. They have funding for mop gear. They also have a storied history of making shit up.
You're right, then, that if it's chlorine that would lend more credibilty to the Syrian/Russian narrative. The Wikipedia link I posted earlier, mentions several cases of the Syrian Army being the target of chlorine gas attacks. However, if Assad did not honor the handover of chemical weapons, or if he ordered the manufacture of some later on, that would not be any sort of surprise either. Punishing the civilians who support (or who he thinks supports) the rebels, would also hardly be out of character.

Yet none of the above means you, as Americans, or my country, or the "international community" needs to invade Syria and depose Assad. I do want him toppled, and I do support those Danes and Kurds who illegally choose to fight either in the Rojava commune or the FSA. But it's their fight. One they most likely will lose, given that the FSA has no important ally left and the Kurds can no longer hope for significant gains in any peace talks following the Russian-Turkish detente.
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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by K@th » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:56 am

apeman wrote:

Either I'm losing it or you are.

Not sure.
No president gets my full support or disdain. They all do things I agree with and they do things I think are shit. This president has, so far, done nothing but be an asshole, until now, where he seemed to take the situation seriously.

I keep thinking of the episode Proportional Response from The West Wing. This situation reminds me of that episode; at least a bit.
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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by C-Mag » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:56 am

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I will be stealing that :whistle:
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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by apeman » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:05 am

Kath wrote:
apeman wrote:

Either I'm losing it or you are.

Not sure.
No president gets my full support or disdain. They all do things I agree with and they do things I think are shit. This president has, so far, done nothing but be an asshole, until now, where he seemed to take the situation seriously.

I keep thinking of the episode Proportional Response from The West Wing. This situation reminds me of that episode; at least a bit.
Well fair enough, time will tell

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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by DBTrek » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:10 am

From the Department of Hilarity:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/worl ... .html?_r=0

After months of warning the masses of the absolute danger Americans face due to Trumps close relationship with Ruissia, the NYT is now hand-wringing over how the Syria strike is endangering our relationship with Russia.

By Jove, it's almost as if they're dead set on bitching, panicking, and blaming no matter which direction the wind blows.
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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by DrYouth » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:12 am

DBTrek wrote:From the Department of Hilarity:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/worl ... .html?_r=0

After months of warning the masses of the absolute danger Americans face due to Trumps close relationship with Ruissia, the NYT is now hand-wringing over how the Syria strike is endangering our relationship with Russia.

By Jove, it's almost as if they're dead set on bitching, panicking, and blaming no matter which direction the wind blows.
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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by kybkh » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:17 am

DrYouth wrote:
DBTrek wrote:From the Department of Hilarity:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/worl ... .html?_r=0

After months of warning the masses of the absolute danger Americans face due to Trumps close relationship with Ruissia, the NYT is now hand-wringing over how the Syria strike is endangering our relationship with Russia.

By Jove, it's almost as if they're dead set on bitching, panicking, and blaming no matter which direction the wind blows.
:lol:
Bingo!
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