Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

[Speaker to Animals]

Do you guys even acknowledge that the people our government has been funding have themselves been using that money to manufacture chlorine gas and use it on the battlefield for years now?

[BjornP]

A list of reported chemical attacks during the Syrian civil war:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_ch ... ns_attacks

[kybkh]

Wonder what lunch with Xi will be like today...

Trump - He'll have the meatloaf.

Xi - B-but I want fish and chips.

Trump - He'll have the meatloaf

Xi - I'd like the meatloaf please.

[DBTrek]

Oh for fuck sake.

You think a youtube video is proof positive of anything?

So now you're back to "only a youtube video".

All the first hand testimony of doctors treating the victims - meh.
All the first hand accounts of the villagers themselves - meh.
All the forensic evidence supplied by Turkey who examined and treated victims - meh.
The first hand observations of reporters who visited the site - meh.
The collective wisdom of the Western intelligence apparatus - meh.

Just a youtube video. And one that dares to question the sterling character of Bashar al-Assad, a man who totally does not have a history of being a serial WMD user on his fellow Syrians.

Right on, bro.
Solid case.

[Alexander PhiAlipson]

Trump - He'll have the meatloaf.

Xi - B-but I want fish and chips.

Trump - He'll have the meatloaf

Xi - I'd like the meatloaf, please.

White-gloved waiter - Two meatloafs well-done with ketchup. Very good, sirs.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Dunno if covered in previous 40 pages, but do we have any proof that Assad gassed the kids?

Nope.

We are bombing people based on youtube videos now. Welcome to the future!

Well, we run the world via Twitter, too... I'd say it's par for the course.

[Speaker to Animals]

Oh for fuck sake.

You think a youtube video is proof positive of anything?

So now you're back to "only a youtube video".

All the first hand testimony of doctors treating the victims - meh.
All the first hand accounts of the villagers themselves - meh.
All the forensic evidence supplied by Turkey who examined and treated victims - meh.
The first hand observations of reporters who visited the site - meh.
The collective wisdom of the Western intelligence apparatus - meh.

Just a youtube video. And one that dares to question the sterling character of Bashar al-Assad, a man who totally does not have a history of being a serial WMD user on his fellow Syrians.

Right on, bro.
Solid case.

Oh, please.

Get out of here with that. The videos we have seen show people stabbing a baby with a needle but not actually injecting anything. We have seen people hosing down alleged sarin gas victims with a fire hose. None of the responders were in mop gear. No atropine injectors in sight.

If you are going to pretend like you can make sense of this and know it was Assad, for some bizarre reason, behind it, then fine. You look a fucking loon.

I'd rather side with actual facts, which right now are pretty much nil.


And, no, I don't take the IC for their word. You'd have to be a moron to do that.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Oh for fuck sake.

You think a youtube video is proof positive of anything?

So now you're back to "only a youtube video".

All the first hand testimony of doctors treating the victims - meh.
All the first hand accounts of the villagers themselves - meh.
All the forensic evidence supplied by Turkey who examined and treated victims - meh.
The first hand observations of reporters who visited the site - meh.
The collective wisdom of the Western intelligence apparatus - meh.

Just a youtube video. And one that dares to question the sterling character of Bashar al-Assad, a man who totally does not have a history of being a serial WMD user on his fellow Syrians.

Right on, bro.
Solid case.

Oh, please.

Get out of here with that. The videos we have seen show people stabbing a baby with a needle but not actually injecting anything. We have seen people hosing down alleged sarin gas victims with a fire hose. None of the responders were in mop gear. No atropine injectors in sight.

If you are going to pretend like you can make sense of this and know it was Assad, for some bizarre reason, behind it, then fine. You look a fucking loon.

I'd rather side with actual facts, which right now are pretty much nil.

Is it possible that Syria doesn't have widely-distributed MOP gear? Where does that fall in the priority list with water and dying of the pox?

[C-Mag]

Seymour Hersh reports

the Obama Administration falsely blamed the government of Syria’s Bashar al-Assad for the sarin gas attack that Obama was trying to use as an excuse to invade Syria; and Hersh pointed to a report from British intelligence saying that the sarin that was used didn’t come from Assad’s stockpiles.
Hersh also said that a secret agreement in 2012 was reached between the Obama Administration and the leaders of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar, to set up a sarin gas attack and blame it on Assad so that the US could invade and overthrow Assad. «By the terms of the agreement, funding came from Turkey, as well as Saudi Arabia and Qatar; the CIA, with the support of MI6, was responsible for getting arms from Gaddafi’s arsenals into Syria». 
Hersh didn’t say whether these «arms» included the precursor chemicals for making sarin which were stockpiled in Libya, but there have been multiple independent reports that Libya’s Gaddafi possessed such stockpiles, and also that the US Consulate in Benghazi Libya was operating a «rat line» for Gaddafi’s captured weapons into Syria through Turkey. So, Hersh isn’t the only reporter who has been covering this. Indeed, the investigative journalist Christoph Lehmann headlined on 7 October 2013, «Top US and Saudi Officials responsible for Chemical Weapons in Syria» and reported, on the basis of very different sources than Hersh used, that «Evidence leads directly to the White House, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Martin Dempsey, CIA Director John Brennan, Saudi Intelligence Chief Prince Bandar, and Saudi Arabia´s Interior Ministry». 

I believe this is a reprint of older writings by Hersh
https://uprootedpalestinians.wordpress. ... our-hersh/

[DBTrek]

I'd rather side with actual facts, which right now are pretty much nil.

Please, you can't even side with your own made up facts.


If we're waiting for you to have a come-to-Jesus meeting with facts we may as well end it now.


Me, waiting for StA to side with facts. Any facts.
Even his imaginary ones.