Castle review thread.

[SuburbanFarmer]

It's a year later and France still has no cause for th he Notre Dame fire.

What's up?

The reactionary original OFFICIAL cause of bad wiring has bern proven completely false. As it turns out all the electrical met stringent codes.

Why was this lie made official so early on ?

My suspicion is that an ethnic minority started it, and they’d rather just cover up than face a mini-genocide in the streets of Paris.

[C-Mag]

It's a year later and France still has no cause for th he Notre Dame fire.

What's up?

The reactionary original OFFICIAL cause of bad wiring has bern proven completely false. As it turns out all the electrical met stringent codes.

Why was this lie made official so early on ?

My suspicion is that an ethnic minority started it, and they’d rather just cover up than face a mini-genocide in the streets of Paris.

My assumption as well.

[Montegriffo]

Sure, absolutely zero evidence but conspiracy theories are fun.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Sure, absolutely zero evidence but conspiracy theories are fun.

Not a lot of other reasons to give a false cause, and then fail to retract when it's disproven. Just say you don't know. Or you're investigating or something. You don't stand by a story proven false, unless you're covering for something.

[SuburbanFarmer]

ok.. which one of us is posting on zerohedge?

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/one ... ns-mystery

dated today at 8am. C-mag posted yesterday afternoon.

[Montegriffo]

Sure, absolutely zero evidence but conspiracy theories are fun.

Not a lot of other reasons to give a false cause, and then fail to retract when it's disproven. Just say you don't know. Or you're investigating or something. You don't stand by a story proven false, unless you're covering for something.

What has been proven false?

[Montegriffo]

As far as I know, there has still been no official statement about the cause of the fire. The area where the fire is known to have started is still inaccessible due to the damaged scaffolding near to it not having been removed yet.
This lack of information is what conspiracy theories thrive on, the vacuum they rush to fill.
Very early on the police made a statement saying an electrical fault was the probable cause. Very likely as a response to conspiracy theories already starting to circulate, without evidence, that the fire was started by Muslims.
Since the majority of building fires are started by electrical faults it was not unreasonable to say it was the probable cause.
Was that statement made to reduce the possibility of race riots in the city?
Possibly, but unknowable as you would need to know for certain the motives for its release.
Is avoiding race riots something the police and political authorities strive to achieve? Bloody right it is. Even if a Muslim was responsible, race riots would just result in the damage of property and risk of injury and death to innocent brown people including some who were not even Muslim let alone responsible for starting the fire.
If you are going to state that you think it was Muslims, you'd better have some bloody good evidence that it was or you are just speculating wildly and endangering lives on the streets of Paris and other cities.

''We don't know'' is evidence of nothing and that is the current stated opinion of the French authorities.

[SuburbanFarmer]

As far as I know, there has still been no official statement about the cause of the fire. The area where the fire is known to have started is still inaccessible due to the damaged scaffolding near to it not having been removed yet.
This lack of information is what conspiracy theories thrive on, the vacuum they rush to fill.
Very early on the police made a statement saying an electrical fault was the probable cause. Very likely as a response to conspiracy theories already starting to circulate, without evidence, that the fire was started by Muslims.
Since the majority of building fires are started by electrical faults it was not unreasonable to say it was the probable cause.
Was that statement made to reduce the possibility of race riots in the city?
Possibly, but unknowable as you would need to know for certain the motives for its release.
Is avoiding race riots something the police and political authorities strive to achieve? Bloody right it is. Even if a Muslim was responsible, race riots would just result in the damage of property and risk of injury and death to innocent brown people including some who were not even Muslim let alone responsible for starting the fire.
If you are going to state that you think it was Muslims, you'd better have some bloody good evidence that it was or you are just speculating wildly and endangering lives on the streets of Paris and other cities.

''We don't know'' is evidence of nothing and that is the current stated opinion of the French authorities.

More to the point - are you comfortable with being constantly lied to by your government? If they think you ‘can’t handle the truth’, then you don’t get to know?

[Montegriffo]

As far as I know, there has still been no official statement about the cause of the fire. The area where the fire is known to have started is still inaccessible due to the damaged scaffolding near to it not having been removed yet.
This lack of information is what conspiracy theories thrive on, the vacuum they rush to fill.
Very early on the police made a statement saying an electrical fault was the probable cause. Very likely as a response to conspiracy theories already starting to circulate, without evidence, that the fire was started by Muslims.
Since the majority of building fires are started by electrical faults it was not unreasonable to say it was the probable cause.
Was that statement made to reduce the possibility of race riots in the city?
Possibly, but unknowable as you would need to know for certain the motives for its release.
Is avoiding race riots something the police and political authorities strive to achieve? Bloody right it is. Even if a Muslim was responsible, race riots would just result in the damage of property and risk of injury and death to innocent brown people including some who were not even Muslim let alone responsible for starting the fire.
If you are going to state that you think it was Muslims, you'd better have some bloody good evidence that it was or you are just speculating wildly and endangering lives on the streets of Paris and other cities.

''We don't know'' is evidence of nothing and that is the current stated opinion of the French authorities.

More to the point - are you comfortable with being constantly lied to by your government? If they think you ‘can’t handle the truth’, then you don’t get to know?

There again you are insinuating that the French government is lying when in fact they are saying they don't know. You are assuming they must be covering something up simply because they are admitting their ignorance.

[SuburbanFarmer]

As far as I know, there has still been no official statement about the cause of the fire. The area where the fire is known to have started is still inaccessible due to the damaged scaffolding near to it not having been removed yet.
This lack of information is what conspiracy theories thrive on, the vacuum they rush to fill.
Very early on the police made a statement saying an electrical fault was the probable cause. Very likely as a response to conspiracy theories already starting to circulate, without evidence, that the fire was started by Muslims.
Since the majority of building fires are started by electrical faults it was not unreasonable to say it was the probable cause.
Was that statement made to reduce the possibility of race riots in the city?
Possibly, but unknowable as you would need to know for certain the motives for its release.
Is avoiding race riots something the police and political authorities strive to achieve? Bloody right it is. Even if a Muslim was responsible, race riots would just result in the damage of property and risk of injury and death to innocent brown people including some who were not even Muslim let alone responsible for starting the fire.
If you are going to state that you think it was Muslims, you'd better have some bloody good evidence that it was or you are just speculating wildly and endangering lives on the streets of Paris and other cities.

''We don't know'' is evidence of nothing and that is the current stated opinion of the French authorities.

More to the point - are you comfortable with being constantly lied to by your government? If they think you ‘can’t handle the truth’, then you don’t get to know?

There again you are insinuating that the French government is lying when in fact they are saying they don't know. You are assuming they must be covering something up simply because they are admitting their ignorance.

I was speaking more to the general point that governments shouldn’t be able to do that. Your hypothesis seems to indicate support for the idea.