Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

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Re: Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by BjornP » Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:12 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
BjornP wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:

Weird how we managed to educate people for centuries before the government started mandate our kids go to their indoctrination centers. Including the poorest Catholic immigrants. Strange..
Might want to compare how many people out of the total population had access to education before compulsory education was introduced. Also:

https://ourworldindata.org/literacy#his ... erspective

So, when you say "centuries", plural...well:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_School_Laws
They are graduating functionally illiterate students right now, Bjorn. It's WORSE.

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/sto ... =121374125

Government schools, especially in democratic party-controlled cities, are nothing more than jobs programs for public union workers. They don't actually teach much of anything.
I don't, indeed can't, deny that it's as bad as you say. Just saying that compared to two hundred years ago, you're doing great... most of the western world is, and a large part of that has to do with legally demanding that children go to school and learn how to - at least - read and do math. Also has to do with it no longer just being the elites getting (and needing) and education. More people are literate today because over the centuries we've come to expect literacy from more than just the nobility, merchant classes, clergy and royal bureaucracy.

Your literacy levels may be declining compared to a decade or two ago, but compared to the literacy levels three, four, five centuries ago? You're not doing that bad. And yes, the state can demand children go to school without that needing to be a public school.

I will always defend people's right to unionize, but defending the right to unionize does not equal beliving in unions -any union- having the right to always win every conflict.

I keep reading horror studies from you guys that are supposed to be good arguments against public education. To me, what I'm getting from those stories is validation that what your problem is implementation , not the existence of, public education. Police corruption, or Washington being a "swamp" of corruption.... you wouldn't use those as a valid argument against having law enforcement or against having a state in general, would you?
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Re: Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by clubgop » Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:27 am

you wouldn't use those as a valid argument against having law enforcement or against having a state in general, would you?
Yes, yes we would given the circumstances. Just watch it burn. Burn motherfucker burn.

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Re: Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by DBTrek » Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:31 am

clubgop wrote:
you wouldn't use those as a valid argument against having law enforcement or against having a state in general, would you?
Yes, yes we would given the circumstances. Just watch it burn. Burn motherfucker burn.

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Post by Penner » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:48 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:Weird how we were doing that just fine before the government came along..

When was the last time the government didn't come along and asked you to send your child to school? School is a better option than sending those younglings to work in the mines for 0.05-0.12 a day- right?
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Re: Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:09 pm

Penner wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:Weird how we were doing that just fine before the government came along..

When was the last time the government didn't come along and asked you to send your child to school? School is a better option than sending those younglings to work in the mines for 0.05-0.12 a day- right?

A school that actually educates my child, and doesn't indoctrinate him in marxist filth and degeneracy. I'd rather send him to a real school.
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Re: Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by Okeefenokee » Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:25 pm

Penner wrote:School is a better option than sending those younglings to work in the mines for 0.05-0.12 a day- right?
:lol:

School choice is LITERALLY the gulag archipelago.

Letting parents decide how they want their children educated is a better option than sending those parents to a firing squad and billing their children for the bullet, right?

I guess you just want people to die.
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Re: Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by Penner » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:47 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
Penner wrote:School is a better option than sending those younglings to work in the mines for 0.05-0.12 a day- right?
:lol:

School choice is LITERALLY the gulag archipelago.

Letting parents decide how they want their children educated is a better option than sending those parents to a firing squad and billing their children for the bullet, right?

I guess you just want people to die.
In this country, you can go to a concert and be shot up by a sniper in a hotel room, or go to a movie theater and be shot up by a psycho, or go to a military base and be shot up by someone, you can go outside and practice baseball and someone might shot you, you can stand in front of a grocery store and someone might shot you, or go out to a nightcluband someone might shot at you, or go to a McDonald's resturantand someone might shot at you, or go to a post office and be shot at by someone, or go to an immigration center and be shot at, etc....
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Re: Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by Okeefenokee » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:57 pm

Penner wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
Penner wrote:School is a better option than sending those younglings to work in the mines for 0.05-0.12 a day- right?
:lol:

School choice is LITERALLY the gulag archipelago.

Letting parents decide how they want their children educated is a better option than sending those parents to a firing squad and billing their children for the bullet, right?

I guess you just want people to die.
In this country, you can go to a concert and be shot up by a sniper in a hotel room, or go to a movie theater and be shot up by a psycho, or go to a military base and be shot up by someone, you can go outside and practice baseball and someone might shot you, you can stand in front of a grocery store and someone might shot you, or go out to a nightcluband someone might shot at you, or go to a McDonald's resturantand someone might shot at you, or go to a post office and be shot at by someone, or go to an immigration center and be shot at, etc....
Yeah, it's a real battlefield out there.

:roll:

We'd best just listen to the obvious fear mongers and give up all our rights.

For the children.
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Re: Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by Penner » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:15 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
Penner wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
:lol:

School choice is LITERALLY the gulag archipelago.

Letting parents decide how they want their children educated is a better option than sending those parents to a firing squad and billing their children for the bullet, right?

I guess you just want people to die.
In this country, you can go to a concert and be shot up by a sniper in a hotel room, or go to a movie theater and be shot up by a psycho, or go to a military base and be shot up by someone, you can go outside and practice baseball and someone might shot you, you can stand in front of a grocery store and someone might shot you, or go out to a nightcluband someone might shot at you, or go to a McDonald's resturantand someone might shot at you, or go to a post office and be shot at by someone, or go to an immigration center and be shot at, etc....
Yeah, it's a real battlefield out there.

:roll:

We'd best just listen to the obvious fear mongers and give up all our rights.

For the children.

Never said about given up any rights and/or our guns but that you can be shot literally anywhere.
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Re: Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by Okeefenokee » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:41 pm

Penner wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
Penner wrote:
In this country, you can go to a concert and be shot up by a sniper in a hotel room, or go to a movie theater and be shot up by a psycho, or go to a military base and be shot up by someone, you can go outside and practice baseball and someone might shot you, you can stand in front of a grocery store and someone might shot you, or go out to a nightcluband someone might shot at you, or go to a McDonald's resturantand someone might shot at you, or go to a post office and be shot at by someone, or go to an immigration center and be shot at, etc....
Yeah, it's a real battlefield out there.

:roll:

We'd best just listen to the obvious fear mongers and give up all our rights.

For the children.

Never said about given up any rights and/or our guns but that you can be shot literally anywhere.
Take that bullshit somewhere else,
What Percentage Of Mass Shootings Happen In 'Gun Free Zones'? The Number Is Stunning.

According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, "gun free zones" (areas where guns are prohibited) have been the target of more than 98% of all mass shootings. This staggering number is why such designated areas are often referred to as "soft targets," meaning unprotected and vulnerable.

"According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, only a little more than 1% of mass public shootings since 1950 have occurred in places that were not considered to be a gun-free zone," reports The Blaze. "In fact, as Crime Prevention Research Center President John Lott Jr. noted in October 2015, only two mass shootings in the U.S. since 1950 have occurred in an area where citizens were not prohibited from carrying a gun."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/27440/wh ... stigiacomo
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