Fire McMaster !

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Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:06 am

Well you've made me be honest on multiple occasions

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:08 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
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Oh, here we go with the malingering now, that's another thing about the young these days, buncha hangar queens, always got a doctors note for some phony baloney malady or another, just another reason to avoid them like the plague when it comes to business and work.

Sure, you can all go crying to the medics, and they can give you a chit for those faint hearts, but don't think we're taking you on patrol, when you're on light duties all day every day.
This ain't particular to millennials.

4-f... not qualified. Arches, or ankles, or, whatever.

Maybe this is why Soldier/Hero McMaster is giving Trump the side eye. :twisted:

Wouldn't take Donald Trump on patrol neither, I think he may actually be a narcissitic psychopath, I'd 4F the Donald too, but probably on mental health issues more than anything.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:44 am

Nukedog wrote:Well you've made me be honest on multiple occasions
Never meant to dress you down, son, like you said, live and let live, nothing you've ever said or done, is of any particular concern to me, if you tell me something, I'll tell you what I think about that, but not from on high, just man to man.
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Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:47 am

Well that's why I like posting with you. We're eye to eye ain't no fuckery going on. Call me on some malformed opinion that's perfectly ok. I don't like going round and round sniping at liberals and shit. They roundly refuse to talk to me, but you wouldn't I know that.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:56 am

Nah, I like you, I mean, I'm not responsible for you, you don't answer to me, and that's an important distinction to me, because I have been responsible for people who answered to me, and make no mistake, I've had my fill of that, but just because you're not of such concern to me, don't mean I don't like you, you're alright by me, Nuke, malformed opinions n' all, I am after all, a misanthropic hedonist, malformed opinions, don't crimp my style in the least.
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Post by kybkh » Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:19 am

I in no way meant to attribute Trump with any traits of greater men. My point only is that Flynn was as important or even more important than Jackson was to Lee.
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Post by Fife » Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:29 pm

That was obvious, ky. I was just spoiling for some <chews lemon peel> from Smits. I love that stuff.


Meanwhile, back at the ranch . . .

ZeroHedge, this afternoon: McMaster: U.S. Preparing For "Preventive War" With North Korea

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. . . and an interesting oped on Foxnews.com about Trump's moment of truth: Trump should fire McMaster and the entire NSC staff

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:44 pm

Fife wrote:That was obvious, ky. I was just spoiling for some <chews lemon peel> from Smits. I love that stuff.


Meanwhile, back at the ranch . . .

ZeroHedge, this afternoon: McMaster: U.S. Preparing For "Preventive War" With North Korea

:hiding:

. . . and an interesting oped on Foxnews.com about Trump's moment of truth: Trump should fire McMaster and the entire NSC staff
So, you would take US military action against North Korea off the table, for any and all contingency short of launch on warning?

I would say McMaster is simply stating the obvious, all military options remain on the table, up to and including preemptive counterforce, what's the big whoop?

The preemptive counterforce option is a critical component of any nuclear deterent, as launch on warning is not deterence, but rather the manifest failure of.
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Post by Fife » Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:54 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:So, you would take US military action against North Korea off the table, for any and all contingency short of launch on warning?

I would say McMaster is simply stating the obvious, all military options remain on the table, up to and including preemptive counterforce, what's the big whoop?
No big whoop-whoop on McMaster's commentary, really. He is just stating the obvious.

IMNSHO, if it were me, I would be guided in my thinking about how secure I felt about taking out their missle(s) at launch on warning. Given what I *think* about that, I doubt I'd be all about talking a bunch of shit regarding the nutty DPRK. I'd just wait for them to get into my space and then it would be lit.

I was just observing the (maybe) provocative nature of McMaster's talk-talk, given the contemporaneous calls for his scalp from some interesting corners.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:07 pm

Fife wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:So, you would take US military action against North Korea off the table, for any and all contingency short of launch on warning?

I would say McMaster is simply stating the obvious, all military options remain on the table, up to and including preemptive counterforce, what's the big whoop?
No big whoop-whoop on McMaster's commentary, really. He is just stating the obvious.

IMNSHO, if it were me, I would be guided in my thinking about how secure I felt about taking out their missle(s) at launch on warning. Given what I *think* about that, I doubt I'd be all about talking a bunch of shit regarding the nutty DPRK. I'd just wait for them to get into my space and then it would be lit.

I was just observing the (maybe) provocative nature of McMaster's talk-talk, given the contemporaneous calls for his scalp from some interesting corners.
If the NK's reach the threshold of being able to impose launch on warning, that pretty much narrows your options, depending on how comprehensive your ballistic missile defenses were, in a ballistic v. anti-ballistic arms race with them, so if the NK's reach the threshold of their own preemptive strike, I would expect the Pentagon to build quite the humdinger of an anti-ballistic missile base in Fairbanks Alaska, which, Lockheed Martin shareholders would of course approve.

In terms of McMaster, I think he's just staying the pocket, he's an active duty General, so he can't quit without quiting the Army, but at the same time, if Trump fires him as PNSA, that would simply mean that he would be re-posted back to the Army, so he's just showing up to work until somebody tells him to go back to his original post, as odds are, McMaster will probably outlast Trump, to be CJCS at some point.
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