Europe, Boring Until it's Not

[TheReal_ND]

Might makes right. You seem to presuppose animal morality onto humans another animal. How many times have us humans clashed? Well anyway we take care of animals now.

I do see a problem with industrial meat farms though don't get me wrong. Not entirely unsympathetic.

Might is not an amoral realm, might can be influenced by ethics, for example, if more people eventually agree with me than disagree, that can translate into legislative power.

This is true i suppose but ideally legislative power is ceded to a collective representing people at wide.. Arbitration should happen on the communal level.

Saber tooth tiger and chicken are not to be a part of this clique

[JohnDonne]

Exactly. We go back to meat as soon as we need it. And if we lose the skills to do that, or the ability to digest it... buh bye.

The skills to hunt a deer? Seems like primitive man figured it out without a manual, without machine guns, not sure why you think modern humans with their manuals and machine guns couldn’t hack it.

And there’s no losing the ability to digest meat, and it doesn’t take months to readjust, it takes days.

If we stopped hunting deer they would likely be wiped out by disease.

White tail have been no limit all season for years, and they are still over populated.

Deer populations can be controlled through vasectomies. That's a non-lethal alternative right there.

[JohnDonne]

Might makes right. You seem to presuppose animal morality onto humans another animal. How many times have us humans clashed? Well anyway we take care of animals now.

I do see a problem with industrial meat farms though don't get me wrong. Not entirely unsympathetic.

Might is not an amoral realm, might can be influenced by ethics, for example, if more people eventually agree with me than disagree, that can translate into legislative power.

This is true i suppose but ideally legislative power is ceded to a collective of wide people. Arbitration should happen on the communal level.

Saber tooth tiger and chicken are not be a part of this clique

I am not suggesting giving legislative power to chickens, but to give human society the power to regulate the behavior of humans, as we have always done.

[JohnDonne]

Nobody hunts deer with machine guns. You are so fucking detached from reality there might be nothing that can save you at this point.

He is as afraid of pumping gas as he is of eating a burger. I don't know what you expected.

This is a debate forum. Address the argument, bitch.

[JohnDonne]

If you try to control my diet like a fucking Vegan commie cunt, and it ever looks like you could actually get away with it, I will bury you and your vegan friends in mass graves. We all will. Bet that.

If you cannot convince people to convert to your bizarre diet religion, then you fucking lost. You just lost. If you want to become zealots who try to take over the world in some vegan theocracy, then we are going to kill you.

So you’ll commit mass murder if we try to stop you from committing mass murder?

By the way, we only need to convert a majority, the rest will be constrained by legislation, whatever their opinions may be.

You couldn't hold on to a gas pumping ban, and you think you're going to manage a meat ban.

You can barely argue against grumpycatface but you think you're going to beat me on my own turf?

[TheReal_ND]

Might is not an amoral realm, might can be influenced by ethics, for example, if more people eventually agree with me than disagree, that can translate into legislative power.

This is true i suppose but ideally legislative power is ceded to a collective of wide people. Arbitration should happen on the communal level.

Saber tooth tiger and chicken are not be a part of this clique

I am not suggesting giving legislative power to chickens, but to give human society the power to regulate the behavior of humans, as we have always done.

But you just legislated the roles out of what our animals that we care for out of existence. You are advocating anarchy.

[Okeefenokee]

The skills to hunt a deer? Seems like primitive man figured it out without a manual, without machine guns, not sure why you think modern humans with their manuals and machine guns couldn’t hack it.

And there’s no losing the ability to digest meat, and it doesn’t take months to readjust, it takes days.

If we stopped hunting deer they would likely be wiped out by disease.

White tail have been no limit all season for years, and they are still over populated.

Deer populations can be controlled through vasectomies. That's a non-lethal alternative right there.

but what about their liberty?

[Speaker to Animals]

Nobody hunts deer with machine guns. You are so fucking detached from reality there might be nothing that can save you at this point.

He is as afraid of pumping gas as he is of eating a burger. I don't know what you expected.

This is a debate forum. Address the argument, bitch.

Except you lost the argument. The vast majority of Americans are not going to abandon the normal omnivore diet for homo sapiens. I have to believe you understand this. At this point, the only way you can accomplish your goals is through coercion, and brother, we will not surrender freedoms like the choice of what we eat.

[JohnDonne]

This is true i suppose but ideally legislative power is ceded to a collective of wide people. Arbitration should happen on the communal level.

Saber tooth tiger and chicken are not be a part of this clique

I am not suggesting giving legislative power to chickens, but to give human society the power to regulate the behavior of humans, as we have always done.

But you just legislated the roles out of what our animals that we care for out of existence. You are advocating anarchy.

I don't understand. How is it anarchy to make a law against breeding animals for consumption, or any other purpose? Other posters call it communism, I find both characterizations inaccurate.

[Okeefenokee]

So you’ll commit mass murder if we try to stop you from committing mass murder?

By the way, we only need to convert a majority, the rest will be constrained by legislation, whatever their opinions may be.

You couldn't hold on to a gas pumping ban, and you think you're going to manage a meat ban.

You can barely argue against grumpycatface but you think you're going to beat me on my own turf?

You lost your ban on pumping gas on your own turf, with all of whacked out Oregon backing you up, and you think you're ready to go on the offensive with a meat ban? In Texas?



Okay, little fella.