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Re: Earth matters

Post by PartyOf5 » Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:24 am

People are throwing out terms like Marxism, Socialism, Environmentalism, Nazi all like these words mean something. Terms like these have been co-opted so many times there is no single definition anymore.

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Re: Earth matters

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:24 am

I was saying that Soros is recycling fascist propaganda imagery.

It is obviously an op directed towards white people, who are hardly even the primary source of the problem. I think it has more to do with weakening white nations than the environment.

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Re: Earth matters

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:16 am

I find National Socialism in Europe to be quite eternal, no change there really.

American Nazis seem deluded, doesn't really work in America.

America has its own brand of fascism, importing the Germanic brand doesn't make sense.

American fascism is more Falangist like Franco and Pinochet, Hitler was kind of outlier actually.

If you strip away the military background, Hitler was basically a Hippie Tree Hugger Artist.

The Germans called them Wandervogel. "Bird of Passage"

I would call American Fascism the Protestant Falange

The messianic leaders are like Thomas J. Jackson and Carrie Nation.
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Re: Earth matters

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:01 am

The problem with a Protestant Falange is that none of them agree on enough to become a solid bloc of actors on the political stage.

The Falange was unwieldy enough between the fascists, reactionaries, and trad Catholics vying for control. Imagine if you had a unique version of Catholicism for every person.

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Re: Earth matters

Post by Fife » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:32 am

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Re: Earth matters

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:33 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:01 am
The problem with a Protestant Falange is that none of them agree on enough to become a solid bloc of actors on the political stage.

The Falange was unwieldy enough between the fascists, reactionaries, and trad Catholics vying for control. Imagine if you had a unique version of Catholicism for every person.
But that's America, it's big, it's rambunctious, it's factions, it's not a European paradigm

National Socialism doesn't fit, Americans don't trust nor like central planning, particularly on the right
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Re: Earth matters

Post by Fife » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:35 am

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Re: Earth matters

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:44 am

I would submit that the Greatest American Fascist is arguably Henry Ford,

So it's stop the socialists by any means necessary

None the less government should be constrained in favour of property rights uber alles.
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Re: Earth matters

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:52 am

It's like Mussolini invoked the government and corporations hand in hand.

But in America, corporations are people, people are corporations.

White men of property, limited liability, with no duty to retreat in the face of socialists of any kind.

Fasci di Combattimento simply means "private army" in the end, like Blackwater/Greystone for example.
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Re: Earth matters

Post by Fife » Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:02 am

Exactly. It's all a construction of the state, coercion, theft, and murder in the name of progress and justice, forever and ever amen.