American's living Paycheck to Paycheck

[Viktorthepirate]

I'm not going to deny that perhaps my ideas will lead to something worse.

Won't lead to something worse for me, I'm invested in multinationals, so it's not in my interests for you to stop drinking this kool aid, but I'm simply confident you will reject any dissent from it, so I don't think there's much danger in telling you how it really works.

Well if you could give me something to read about this maybe I'd see reason. I've asked for that a bunch of times.

But so far the only arguments I hear are

"poor people suck, you must be poor for bringing this up"

"X job doesn't deserve that much money because it is a challenge to my social status"

"You must believe in a centrally planned economy if you think that minimum wage should go up"

[Smitty-48]

Well if you could give me something to read about this maybe I'd see reason. I've asked for that a bunch of times.

Not in my interests, philosophically I oppose the agenda of destroying small businesses in order to favour publically traded multinationals, but financially, I'm all for it, I don't really want you to spit out the bit, keep on keeping on with that kool-aid, tell all your friends.

[Okeefenokee]

I'm not going to deny that perhaps my ideas will lead to something worse. I'm not an economist.

But I want what's best for my people, my people being all 300+ million Americans, not just my demographic. And the current trajectory doesn't look good.

Not to mention we overspend tons of money on healthcare because the working poor have to wait until it's an emergency before they can be treated instead of catching it early. What sense does that make?

You can work 40 hours a week and still need government assistance. Or worse, not qualify for it while freeloaders have a better life than you. Is this a good system?

You got any ideas about how something else won't be laden with more freeloaders?

Better healthcare, because I've seen many people with health issues who spend any extra money they get on medical bills instead of bettering themselves.

Higher minimum wage and lower business taxes.

Make work programs for this habitually on the system longer than maybe.... a year.

You mean cheaper healthcare. We already have quality healthcare. It just isn't cheap, for many reasons. Minimum wage is not the panacea it's purported to be. I just bought a big mac from a computer screen yesterday.

Lower business taxes probably won't hurt, but I think there are a lot of other costs to businesses that aren't entailed in their tax bills.

Tax payer funded make work programs is Hash's department. I'm ag'in it. More government nannying which will never lead to anything good. A straight up statute of limitations on welfare, period, would work better.

[Viktorthepirate]

Well if you could give me something to read about this maybe I'd see reason. I've asked for that a bunch of times.

Not in my interests, philosophically I oppose the agenda of destroying small businesses in order to favour publically traded multinationals, but financially, I'm all for it, I don't really want you to spit out the bit, keep on keeping on with that kool-aid, tell all your friends.

A higher minimum wage does not destroy small business if taxes go down concurrently.

Taking money from the military budget does not destroy small businesses not involved in the MIC.

[heydaralon]

One thing that does drive me nuts is how large corporations game the system when it comes to government programs. For instance, WalMart will show its employees how to apply for EBT when they start working there. This is ridiculous. I dont know how to fix this problem but that shit pisses me off.

[C-Mag]

But so far the only arguments I hear are

"poor people suck, you must be poor for bringing this up"

"X job doesn't deserve that much money because it is a challenge to my social status"

"You must believe in a centrally planned economy if you think that minimum wage should go up"

I averaged 74 hours a week over the last month.

I don't want to hear about people whining about being poor. Being poor is more of a choice than you can wrap your mind around. Fuck the Economic Planners, understand the battlefield, go out there and beat it.

[Ex-California]

One thing that does drive me nuts is how large corporations game the system when it comes to government programs. For instance, WalMart will show its employees how to apply for EBT when they start working there. This is ridiculous. I dont know how to fix this problem but that shit pisses me off.

Get rid of EBT

[Okeefenokee]

One thing that does drive me nuts is how large corporations game the system when it comes to government programs. For instance, WalMart will show its employees how to apply for EBT when they start working there. This is ridiculous. I dont know how to fix this problem but that shit pisses me off.

Block anyone with a job from getting gibs, and walmart won't be able to do it.

Biggest corporation on earth don't pay under the table, last I checked.

[Viktorthepirate]

You got any ideas about how something else won't be laden with more freeloaders?

Better healthcare, because I've seen many people with health issues who spend any extra money they get on medical bills instead of bettering themselves.

Higher minimum wage and lower business taxes.

Make work programs for this habitually on the system longer than maybe.... a year.

You mean cheaper healthcare. We already have quality healthcare. It just isn't cheap, for many reasons. Minimum wage is not the panacea it's purported to be. I just bought a big mac from a computer screen yesterday.

Lower business taxes probably won't hurt, but I think there are a lot of other costs to businesses that aren't entailed in their tax bills.

Tax payer funded make work programs is Hash's department. I'm ag'in it. More government nannying which will never lead to anything good. A straight up statute of limitations on welfare, period, would work better.

Healthcare - yes, you're correct. Cheaper healthcare, but how to do that is challenging without compromising what makes our healthcare so good. I think I read somewhere that for every 3 dollars spent on healthcare, 2 covers bureaucracy.

A straight up statute on limitations seems too constricting. And what about the children? Lol

[Smitty-48]

Well if you could give me something to read about this maybe I'd see reason. I've asked for that a bunch of times.

Not in my interests, philosophically I oppose the agenda of destroying small businesses in order to favour publically traded multinationals, but financially, I'm all for it, I don't really want you to spit out the bit, keep on keeping on with that kool-aid, tell all your friends.

A higher minimum wage does not destroy small business if taxes go down concurrently.

Taking money from the military budget does not destroy small businesses not involved in the MIC.

Well luckily none of that is going to happen and so my interests are secure, that's the beauty of it, you're naivete walks you right into the trap, it all depends on your idealistic naivete, if you suddenly got clear eyed and hard headed about your interests, that would be bad. For me at least. To wit, I am the Vanpire Squid, you are my prey, I've still got some years left before I die, so I need to milk you for the duration.