Responsibility

[SuburbanFarmer]

[quote="Martin ]Women can pursue their own lives without holding men’s balls in a vice.

Another thing I don't get. How is working with women putting your balls in a vise?

I truly don't get the mindset. Women have been good to the men in my life. They like women. I like men. They really like a challenge, as do I. I never looked at men as the enemy, and same for the guys I know. I feel like I'm on a different planet from our forum misogynists. Were their mommies mean to them or something? Where does the hostility come from? Is having to treat women as equals that scary?[/quote][/quote][/quote]

It never stops with 'equals'. Ever.

Without our gender roles, there's just confusion, and a never-ending battle for turf. Women don't want to be 'equal', they want to be 'the same'. Therein lies all the troubles of our generation.

[Martin Hash]

This isn’t two-dimensional, women have their own thing. Women aren’t equal in testosterone related aspects of life. 7th Grade Gym is real. I don’t expect, nor want, women to participate. My wife & daughter, and daughter-in-laws have their baby thing going on. I, as a man, can only offer to be responsible.

[MilSpecs]

This isn’t two-dimensional, women have their own thing. Women aren’t equal in testosterone related aspects of life. 7th Grade Gym is real. I don’t expect, nor want, women to participate. My wife & daughter, and daughter-in-laws have their baby thing going on. I, as a man, can only offer to be responsible.

Babies are a part of life, not a be all and do all.Women are ambitious and more than capable of running things.

[heydaralon]

Damn, my stepdad keeps calling me. I've put on some weight, and I don't want him to see me like this right now. I've been telling him I have the flu, to stall for time, but that excuse is only gonna last for a little bit. What should I do? I haven't seen him since we broke up in high school. Anyone?

[Martin Hash]

This isn’t two-dimensional, women have their own thing. Women aren’t equal in testosterone related aspects of life. 7th Grade Gym is real. I don’t expect, nor want, women to participate. My wife & daughter, and daughter-in-laws have their baby thing going on. I, as a man, can only offer to be responsible.

Babies are a part of life, not a be all and do all.Women are ambitious and more than capable of running things.

I’d have to see how they do in 7th Grade Gym. I’m not saying it’s impossible, but I’ve seen lots of “capable” guys get owned.

Women sense this and so they insist on changing the rules. Well, good luck with trying to counter human nature: you get what we got going on now.

[Martin Hash]

Lots of guys are failures in the dominance hierarchy: almost all homosexuals, certainly transgenders. These “weirdos” have joined with women & minorities to take over one of the Parties. The situation is terrible.

p.s. I’m a West Coaster so I don’t understand why minority men don’t consider themselves men first? It’s possible they do but the media bunches them in with the “victims”.

[Speaker to Animals]

I disagree regarding homosexuals. The truly effeminate ones the media portrays.. perhaps. Most gay men are relatively masculine. Gay men that are still men can go pretty fucking far without a woman holding them back. Two career-driven men can build an empire. e.g. Alexander and Hephaestion.

The most high-performance men often, I think, either go with some degree of celibacy (Steve Jobs or Nicola Tesla) or they maintain very distant relations with their spouses. I suspect gay men have an inherent advantage over heterosexual men, since a male partner would be better able to support a high-performing man without the drama and resource extraction. Thus, they wouldn't necessarily have to go the Tesla route to maximize achievement.

I might be wrong here. Not totally sure. Just suspicions based on interactions. In a lot of ways, I am jealous of them for the freedom they possess from women. But then.. the sex would be pretty revolting, so I guess Tesla had the practical solution.

[Speaker to Animals]

Some of the conversations I have had were very interesting. They see what women have become, are not impressed at all, and feel badly for a lot of heterosexual men. At the same time, they don't really talk about it much with us because most of us are blind to it so there's no real point.

It almost seems like their relationships are very contractual. They have a strong sense of what each person is bringing to the relationship and whether one is not pulling his appropriate weight. At least, it's not a one-sided affair like it is for us where it's women demanding men maintain utility to them while they themselves bring very little to the table.

But again, I can't be totally sure. It's one of those topics I think would make a great discussion topic between more red pilled heterosexual and gay men.

[MilSpecs]

This isn’t two-dimensional, women have their own thing. Women aren’t equal in testosterone related aspects of life. 7th Grade Gym is real. I don’t expect, nor want, women to participate. My wife & daughter, and daughter-in-laws have their baby thing going on. I, as a man, can only offer to be responsible.

Dude, you really are a product of your culture.

[Martin Hash]

This isn’t two-dimensional, women have their own thing. Women aren’t equal in testosterone related aspects of life. 7th Grade Gym is real. I don’t expect, nor want, women to participate. My wife & daughter, and daughter-in-laws have their baby thing going on. I, as a man, can only offer to be responsible.

Dude, you really are a product of your culture.

A million years of evolution.