Capitalism Cures Poverty

[Smitty-48]

Their dogma cannot be broken.

You can take a nation historically known for mass starvation and make it food secure, then put it on track to being the largest economy in the planet with capitalism ... and they’ll still find a way to convince themselves that it’s a travesty of a system.

They’re like Hale Bopp cultists, rationality and evidence just hold no sway.

So, the helicopters basically. That's what I thought.

[DBTrek]

“When we were mass starving like human locusts in our barren, hand plowed rice fields we had better access to the international media! No suicide nets around the Foxconn building either!”

[Smitty-48]

“When we were mass starving like human locusts in our barren, hand plowed rice fields we had better access to the international media! No suicide nets around the Foxconn building either!”

Cultural Marxism proves that even if you created an economic utopia, the sob stories just keep on coming, there's no cure for the Lefty disease, it has nothing to do with poverty, that's just a place holder, if you fix that, they'll find something else to be "oppressed" about.

[SuburbanFarmer]

If only we could all live in the Chinese utopia. Truly a model for modern success.

When your rhetoric reaches this point, you are lost.

[Smitty-48]

I don't get why the guy is worried about pampered middle class Millennials in the West "demanding" the Chinese get paid more, nothing these college students "demand" is going to happen vis a vis trade with China, China has the markets by the balls, everybody is grovelling at the feet of Xi Jinping, China is in charge now, these kids better start worrying about the Chinese dictating to them, not the other way round, China has more wealthy people than there are people in most Western countries, the Chinese are the ones dictating the terms naow.

Stop worrying about the "poor" Chinese, it's a twenty three trillion dollar economy, that's bigger than the American economy, they're a global economic superpower, never mind demanding things from them, the question is what are they going to be demanding from you? The West is not going to be imposing standards on China, China is going to be imposing standards on the West, they already are.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Indeed.

Is capitalism stopping their laborers from talking to the media?
No?

Nope.

Which is precisely why us Kiplings of the west think giving an ear to the laborers in the Chinese economy is the least we can do.

Again, just having markets is a necessary but insufficient condition for 'curing poverty.'

[Smitty-48]

"Curing poverty" is really just crypto Marxist blather, and "listening to the plight of Chinese labourers" is just more virtue signalling.

The purpose of capitalism is not to cure anything, the purpose of capitalism is freedom, if it happens to cure somethings along the way, great, if it doesn't, too bad so sad, but that's how the cookie crumbles.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

"Curing poverty" is just crypto Marxist blather, and "listening to the plight of Chinese labourers" is just more virtue signalling

'Curing poverty' wasn't my damn phrase.

The point is that it isn't Westerners imposing on the Chinese, it is the Chinese who are beginning to agitate for a larger share of their growing economy.

/shrug

[Smitty-48]

"Curing poverty" is just crypto Marxist blather, and "listening to the plight of Chinese labourers" is just more virtue signalling

'Curing poverty' wasn't my damn phrase.

I'm dinging the OP for crypto Marxist road to hell is paved intentions, I'm dinging you for vacuous virtue signalling foppery.

It's a two fer.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

It is no more virtue signalling than all this nonsense about helicopters.

Fine by me, we all display our plumage, just to different crowds I guess.