How Much More Alpha Was Theodore Than Most Presidents?

[Speaker to Animals]

37% casualty rate too. Not very meta..

But definitely Alpha.

Honestly, I think of him more of a proto-nerd that devoted his nerddom towards survivalism and fighting.

An alpha, to my mind, is very different than that. An alpha is not usually a showboater either.

Further, if you read accounts of the major conflicts, the guys who boasted, and who people thought would be the toughest, were not necessarily so, whereas some of the quietest and gentlest men became ferocious warriors when the fighting commenced.

T.R. was certainly a tough fighter. He was brave. He was smart. A great man, no doubt. But that's not what makes you an alpha.

If you want to figure out who is actually alpha, strip away the effects of society, law, acculturation, and even civility itself. The man who endures best, and who can attract a cadre of warriors who will follow him anywhere.. that guy is alpha.

[Okeefenokee]

But still brave and manly, yes?

The Gatling gunners were particularly brave and manly, as were the "Buffalo Soldiers" and infantry who did the most and the hardest fighting.

10th Regiment represent!

[DBTrek]

What makes a hat Alpha?

[Okeefenokee]

What makes a hat Alpha?

I don't know. I'm reading about the adventures of Jackson and his merry band of pirates.

[Speaker to Animals]

What makes a hat Alpha?

[SuburbanFarmer]

37% casualty rate too. Not very meta..

But definitely Alpha.

Honestly, I think of him more of a proto-nerd that devoted his nerddom towards survivalism and fighting.

An alpha, to my mind, is very different than that. An alpha is not usually a showboater either.

Further, if you read accounts of the major conflicts, the guys who boasted, and who people thought would be the toughest, were not necessarily so, whereas some of the quietest and gentlest men became ferocious warriors when the fighting commenced.

T.R. was certainly a tough fighter. He was brave. He was smart. A great man, no doubt. But that's not what makes you an alpha.

If you want to figure out who is actually alpha, strip away the effects of society, law, acculturation, and even civility itself. The man who endures best, and who can attract a cadre of warriors who will follow him anywhere.. that guy is alpha.

I'd call that guy a leader, not "alpha". As I understand it, alpha and beta are just intro- and extro-version.

[GloryofGreece]

37% casualty rate too. Not very meta..

But definitely Alpha.

Honestly, I think of him more of a proto-nerd that devoted his nerddom towards survivalism and fighting.

An alpha, to my mind, is very different than that. An alpha is not usually a showboater either.

Further, if you read accounts of the major conflicts, the guys who boasted, and who people thought would be the toughest, were not necessarily so, whereas some of the quietest and gentlest men became ferocious warriors when the fighting commenced.

T.R. was certainly a tough fighter. He was brave. He was smart. A great man, no doubt. But that's not what makes you an alpha.

If you want to figure out who is actually alpha, strip away the effects of society, law, acculturation, and even civility itself. The man who endures best, and who can attract a cadre of warriors who will follow him anywhere.. that guy is alpha.

So clear examples in your definition would the well types like Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan, etc. to lesser known warlords like Suetonius, Alcibiades, Themistocles, Cortes, etc. but even braggadocios men like Patton certainly fit the bill to (*which kind of goes against the idea of not being a talker or loud dude).

[Speaker to Animals]

But definitely Alpha.

Honestly, I think of him more of a proto-nerd that devoted his nerddom towards survivalism and fighting.

An alpha, to my mind, is very different than that. An alpha is not usually a showboater either.

Further, if you read accounts of the major conflicts, the guys who boasted, and who people thought would be the toughest, were not necessarily so, whereas some of the quietest and gentlest men became ferocious warriors when the fighting commenced.

T.R. was certainly a tough fighter. He was brave. He was smart. A great man, no doubt. But that's not what makes you an alpha.

If you want to figure out who is actually alpha, strip away the effects of society, law, acculturation, and even civility itself. The man who endures best, and who can attract a cadre of warriors who will follow him anywhere.. that guy is alpha.

I'd call that guy a leader, not "alpha". As I understand it, alpha and beta are just intro- and extro-version.

People have co-opted the concept into their various ideologies. PUAs, for example, just adopted women's conception of it, which is all appearance and no substance. Which I guess makes sense if all you care about is whether women find you sexually attractive. Hash is trying to co-opt it into his little ideology he can't convince anybody to adopt.

Personally, I just look at it from a evolutionary psychology perspective. I guess you can say I am doing the same thing, but I can still argue my concept is the most fundamental basis for what it means to be an alpha. Everything else is more like play-acting as the alpha, especially that PUA shit. But to some extent so is the alpha/meta stuff Hash is talking about. For instance, to say this nerdy engineer is "alpha" over the other engineers is silly. He's just play acting as one in the absence of an actual alpha exercising dominance over the group.

For the most part, civilization weeds out alphas. The longer civilization continues, the less alphas you will get. Most alphas today are probably in prison, gangs, or in the military.

[Speaker to Animals]

But definitely Alpha.

Honestly, I think of him more of a proto-nerd that devoted his nerddom towards survivalism and fighting.

An alpha, to my mind, is very different than that. An alpha is not usually a showboater either.

Further, if you read accounts of the major conflicts, the guys who boasted, and who people thought would be the toughest, were not necessarily so, whereas some of the quietest and gentlest men became ferocious warriors when the fighting commenced.

T.R. was certainly a tough fighter. He was brave. He was smart. A great man, no doubt. But that's not what makes you an alpha.

If you want to figure out who is actually alpha, strip away the effects of society, law, acculturation, and even civility itself. The man who endures best, and who can attract a cadre of warriors who will follow him anywhere.. that guy is alpha.

So clear examples in your definition would the well types like Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan, etc. to lesser known warlords like Suetonius, Alcibiades, Themistocles, Cortes, etc. but even braggadocios men like Patton certainly fit the bill to (*which kind of goes against the idea of not being a talker or loud dude).

I am not sure about Alexander. I don't know enough about his personality and character. Genghis definitely was an alpha. Maybe THE alpha.

Charles the Hammer comes to mind.

[Speaker to Animals]

One thing about alphas is that you will naturally fall in line. They tend to make convincing leaders, though it doesn't necessarily translate to effective leadership. That much is just genetic behavior for us. This is why so many leaders will try to develop the affectations of being an alpha. This is the gist of so many leadership self-help books.

An alpha is the last genetic vestige of when the species that preceded our own in our evolutionary history still had some equivalent to a silverback. It's not special, really. Intelligence and cleverness are better traits. My American bulldog is the alpha of his litter. The little female boxer just pushes his buttons and manipulates him.

The rest of this stuff literally consists of people trying to adopt the affectations of an alpha to boost their leadership capabilities. A true alpha can be brutal, and our propensity to fall in line with the guy is just vestigial genetic behavior we can easily counter with an intellect.