Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by BjornP » Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:19 am

Okeefenokee wrote:
BjornP wrote:Kurdish news

Iraqi Kurdistan to hold a referendum on independence:

http://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/300320174

..going to Washington to argue for an end of US "one-Iraq" policy:

http://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/300320173

And in Syria, the Syrian Kurds in the PYD fear that they have been sidelined by Russia in the Geneva peace talks, as part of a supposed Russian concession to Turkey:

http://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/syria/22022017

...and it seems that not only the PYD Kurds felt ignored and so they left the Geneva peace talks:

http://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/syria/300320171

Maybe once ISIS is destroyed, the next big fight in the region is going to be the Kurds against Turkey, Syria and the Arab-majority parts of Iraq. That's a PR disaster waiting to happen, given the positive media attention they've gotten from several countries on both the left and right since the fight against ISIS started.
Expect to see freedom loving nations come out against self determination.
I expect them to come out against seperatism achieved through violent means, but also do not expect them to commit politically to do anything about it. Most people in the West are sympathetic to the Kurdish wish for their own country. That's nice, but it's as useful in a fight against an Iraqi/Turkey/Iran war on Kurdistan as a Facebook like.

Without any allies, an Iraqi Kurdish attempt at gaining independence against the wishes of the Iraqi government would end up with the same outcome as a going against the Iranian, Turkish or Syrian government: Defeat. Iraqi Kurdistan is definitely the strongest and most militarily efficient Kurdish region thanks to over a decade of self-rule, and they might be able to hold out for some time, but even if the US won't fight with Iraq against a Kurdish independence war, I strongly suspect Turkey or/and Iran would be willing to assist Iraq. And an Iraq allied with Iran, or with Turkey... game over for Kurdistan.

I'm hoping that the Iraqi Kurds won't go the military route, though. Better in the short term if they dedicate their efforts to making deals and giving assurances to and with Iraq, Turkey, Syria and Iran and work from there for their independence. If their independence efforts lands them three, hostile neighbours with powerful allies, who don't accept them as anything but lost territory, Kurdistan's going to be a short-lived state.
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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by TheReal_ND » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:43 am

Image
Developments Apr4
>At least 58 dead & over 200 wounded in rebel-held Khan Shaykun due to chemical weapons
>Russian MP arrives in Hama city along with 5th Legion regrouping for new offensive there
>E Aleppo:SAA liberates 2 villages north to Jirah AB
>N Hama:SAA liberates Maardes
>E Damascus:SAA capture 5 building blocks near the Electric Grid Station from HTS
>SAA ambush jihadists offensive in mountainous area of Latakia
>IS refuses to give up on DeZ, heavy clashes continue
>SAA pushes E of Palmyra to liberate Arak Gas Fields
>3rd convoy of militants to leave Homs district towards Idlib
>65 SDF troops killed across Raqqa due to IS counter-offensive
>Turkey will maintain military presence in Syria despite end of operations

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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:27 am

TheReal_ND wrote:Image
Developments Apr4
>At least 58 dead & over 200 wounded in rebel-held Khan Shaykun due to chemical weapons
>Russian MP arrives in Hama city along with 5th Legion regrouping for new offensive there
>E Aleppo:SAA liberates 2 villages north to Jirah AB
>N Hama:SAA liberates Maardes
>E Damascus:SAA capture 5 building blocks near the Electric Grid Station from HTS
>SAA ambush jihadists offensive in mountainous area of Latakia
>IS refuses to give up on DeZ, heavy clashes continue
>SAA pushes E of Palmyra to liberate Arak Gas Fields
>3rd convoy of militants to leave Homs district towards Idlib
>65 SDF troops killed across Raqqa due to IS counter-offensive
>Turkey will maintain military presence in Syria despite end of operations
Things seem to be going well here. Assad's a great guy, btw. :whistle:
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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:28 am

They were going all right. Of course nobody wants that however.

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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:40 am

Are we back to Barrel Bombs? I get so damn tired of Fake News (read Israel) trying to overthrow Assad. Babies being thrown out of incubators next.

p.s. Is anyone watching this season of "Homeland." It's an awesome parallel to what's happening to Trump and by whom.
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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by kybkh » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:09 am

I wonder if CNN's and MSNBC's blood lust for non-Sunni Syrians will make Liberals second guess their reporting on Trump?
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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:14 am

Dude what? Am I missing something? Why do people keep tying Trump to recent developments?

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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:33 am

He sent troops, now Fake News is trying to bait him. (I wish I had more faith in his wisdom.)
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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by kybkh » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:07 am

The news is saying that Assad used WMDs because Trump said it was up to the Syrian people.

Anyone who claims to be a critical thinker and can honestly believe for a minute that Assad would use WMDs on the eve of victory is beyond my understanding.
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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:16 am

Martin Hash wrote:He sent troops, now Fake News is trying to bait him. (I wish I had more faith in his wisdom.)
Faith is what you have in spite of evidence... as in, "I have faith (in Trump's wisdom) because it is absurd"- to paraphrase.

You can have as much faith as you will, no need to waste a good wish.
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