Speaker to Animals wrote: Sun May 19, 2019 12:37 pm
Engineering is not simply a skillset and I suspect you neither understand what the red herring fallacy means.
Engineering: college required.
Database admin: trade.
There’s a bigger issue here: a college degree is the new high school diploma. I learned the skills I needed in high school, but that hasn’t been true for the past generation. They can’t write it or do math to the same level as the high school graduate of the past. This is not necessarily a bad thing if we take into account that there is more to learn, but it makes college an extension of high school. It might make sense to have trade colleges in that case, where the basic educational skills are completed and the trade skills are taught. Might do something for our democracy if colleges taught the tracks together, so kids who go into trades are educated along with kids going into the professions or business.
Keep people in a government institution longer and longer. No thanks.
Quite confused. Is it a science? A philosophy? A way of being?
Or perhaps it’s simply performing a function in return for goods and services?
Wonder if there’s a word for that....
Dumbass, try to process this:
Engineer (professional) : Designs and implements DBS like MySQL from scratch; knows the theoretical foundation of database systems in order to do that.
Database admin (tradesman): Uses the DBS designed and built by engineers to setup a database for the used car dealership, or whatever it is you do.
Bonus example..
Mechanical engineer: designs automobiles -- Not a tradesman.
Mechanic: fixes automobiles designed by engineers -- tradesman.
Or perhaps it’s simply performing a function in return for goods and services?
Wonder if there’s a word for that....
Dumbass, try to process this:
Engineer (professional) : Designs and implements DBS like MySQL from scratch; knows the theoretical foundation of database systems in order to do that.
Database admin (tradesman): Uses the DBS designed and built by engineers to setup a database for the used car dealership, or whatever it is you do.
Bonus example..
Mechanical engineer: designs automobiles -- Not a tradesman.
Mechanic: fixes automobiles designed by engineers -- tradesman.
So there’s Engineering and Everything Else, eh?
Interesting outlook there.
And the fact that SQL Server, like automobiles, plastic straws, and everything else in the modern world was designed by someone calling themselves an engineer clearly delineated the two. All implementations of Windows, for example, are the result of The Engineer Class, not the Others.
Or perhaps it’s simply performing a function in return for goods and services?
Wonder if there’s a word for that....
Dumbass, try to process this:
Engineer (professional) : Designs and implements DBS like MySQL from scratch; knows the theoretical foundation of database systems in order to do that.
Database admin (tradesman): Uses the DBS designed and built by engineers to setup a database for the used car dealership, or whatever it is you do.
Bonus example..
Mechanical engineer: designs automobiles -- Not a tradesman.
Mechanic: fixes automobiles designed by engineers -- tradesman.
So there’s Engineering and Everything Else, eh?
Interesting outlook there.
And the fact that SQL Server, like automobiles, plastic straws, and everything else in the modern world was designed by someone calling themselves an engineer clearly delineated the two. All implementations of Windows, for example, are the result of The Engineer Class, not the Others.
Fascinating, really.
No, dipshit. You are just ignorant. That part is not my problem.
Pro tip: when the degree you need is in these broad areas called "science" and "engineering", it's not a trade. LOL
