Europe, Boring Until it's Not

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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:21 pm

TheOneX wrote:
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This all very revealing. If people like GCF and his Democrat party get in power, they will be all too happy to "live with terrorist attacks." regulary and if you don't like it and speak out against it, fuck your free speech. He keeps saying "it's not America." But it's clear he wants it to be.
Nah, in GCF-land, you could say whatever you wanted to. You could also vote in the public referendum on almost any domestic issue, from your laptop in between porn sessions. As executive, I would have veto power on any measure with less than a 10% margin, but otherwise, you'd decide your own fate. Federal law would extend only to Constitutional issues, the rest decided by states. State law would only extend to State Constitutional issues, the rest decided by municipalities.

Corporations would be taxed progressively, as they approached a given percentage of GDP, and individuals would be on a flat tax across the board.

Personal freedom would be absolute, and end sharply at the point of oppressing or victimizing someone else. Free speech would also be absolute, and end at the point of harassment. All life-sentence prison terms would be changed to executions. Lobbyists would be banned from government property, and government officials banned from lobbying for 2 years after leaving office. All public positions would carry a 2-term limit, and be re-elected every 5 years. Any conviction of corruption in office would carry a prison term, non-negotiable.

Welcome to paradise.
I can get on board with all of this, except the death sentence.
Well, I see it as an act of mercy. Life in a cage is no life at all. I'd prefer the death sentence to fighting for survival every day until death.
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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by heydaralon » Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:44 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
TheOneX wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Nah, in GCF-land, you could say whatever you wanted to. You could also vote in the public referendum on almost any domestic issue, from your laptop in between porn sessions. As executive, I would have veto power on any measure with less than a 10% margin, but otherwise, you'd decide your own fate. Federal law would extend only to Constitutional issues, the rest decided by states. State law would only extend to State Constitutional issues, the rest decided by municipalities.

Corporations would be taxed progressively, as they approached a given percentage of GDP, and individuals would be on a flat tax across the board.

Personal freedom would be absolute, and end sharply at the point of oppressing or victimizing someone else. Free speech would also be absolute, and end at the point of harassment. All life-sentence prison terms would be changed to executions. Lobbyists would be banned from government property, and government officials banned from lobbying for 2 years after leaving office. All public positions would carry a 2-term limit, and be re-elected every 5 years. Any conviction of corruption in office would carry a prison term, non-negotiable.

Welcome to paradise.
I can get on board with all of this, except the death sentence.
Well, I see it as an act of mercy. Life in a cage is no life at all. I'd prefer the death sentence to fighting for survival every day until death.
Huh. I never saw you as a death penalty guy.
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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by TheReal_ND » Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:11 pm

You've never seen him as a bad idea guy until now? While I'm a proponent of expanding th death penalty, this formula is ripe for disaster concerning frame ups/innocents. Anyway, it will never happen unless white people start upping their game in the double homicide game. Until then it will just be blacks and we can't kill them because they were slaves in a previous life.

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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by Fife » Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:18 pm

His hyperbole always runs down the wrong side of the lightning rod; the sub-σ-IQ side.

Aim higher.

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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by heydaralon » Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:19 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:You've never seen him as a bad idea guy until now? While I'm a proponent of expanding th death penalty, this formula is ripe for disaster concerning frame ups/innocents. Anyway, it will never happen unless white people start upping their game in the double homicide game. Until then it will just be blacks and we can't kill them because they were slaves in a previous life.
Death penalty over life imprisonment ins't a bad idea per se, it just depends on what how you view ethical questions. For me, the idea of living in a cage for the rest of my life is nightmarish, but if I had to pick I don't know if I could decide death penalty for myself over life imprisonment, even if it would end my suffering. I do agree that there is the problem of false convictions though. But our government makes those kinds of life and death calculations all the time. During every war we fight, there have been civilians that have ended up dying. Its not like we can give life back to them anymore than we can people wrongly executed, but for a lot of people, the benefit of winning the war outweighs the collateral damage cost, so it is what it is. I don't know how I feel about death penalty tbh. I'm not losing too much sleep over it though, because most people on death row are pieces of dogshit.
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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:45 pm

Bad idea.

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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:40 pm

heydaralon wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:You've never seen him as a bad idea guy until now? While I'm a proponent of expanding th death penalty, this formula is ripe for disaster concerning frame ups/innocents. Anyway, it will never happen unless white people start upping their game in the double homicide game. Until then it will just be blacks and we can't kill them because they were slaves in a previous life.
Death penalty over life imprisonment ins't a bad idea per se, it just depends on what how you view ethical questions. For me, the idea of living in a cage for the rest of my life is nightmarish, but if I had to pick I don't know if I could decide death penalty for myself over life imprisonment, even if it would end my suffering. I do agree that there is the problem of false convictions though. But our government makes those kinds of life and death calculations all the time. During every war we fight, there have been civilians that have ended up dying. Its not like we can give life back to them anymore than we can people wrongly executed, but for a lot of people, the benefit of winning the war outweighs the collateral damage cost, so it is what it is. I don't know how I feel about death penalty tbh. I'm not losing too much sleep over it though, because most people on death row are pieces of dogshit.
Well, perhaps we should revisit the idea of ridiculous life sentencing then. Somehow it's ok to lock a human being in a cage for the rest of their existence, but some kind of Terrible Act to kill them with drugs?

The difference is nil, in my opinion. Both should not be used so freely.
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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by Fife » Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:21 am

As usual, Dr. Dalrymple is dead on. The fucking children and imbeciles have taken over.

Britain’s Election Disaster
Theresa May’s political incompetence carries a high price.


Unfortunately, egalitarianism is a little like Islam in that, just as a moderate Muslim can always be outflanked by someone more Islamic than he, so an egalitarian can usually be outflanked by someone more egalitarian than he: and in the contest between the Conservatives and the Labour Party, no one will ever believe that the Conservatives are more devoted to equality of outcome than the Labour Party. May therefore chose her battleground with a perfect eye for defeat.

. . .

None of this worried the young, who had as yet no stake in property, only what are sometimes called ideals. The Labour Party offered them and others the beguiling vision of living perpetually at the expense of others—Frédéric Bastiat’s definition of the state. The Laffer curve meant nothing to them; punishing the prosperous was more important and gratifying than understanding how to maximize tax receipts.

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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by KerningChameleon » Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:48 am

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And Theresa May would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those meddling kids and their jam man!
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