Oregon: Pump Your Own Gas Crisis

[K@th]

Yeah, it's $4.95 per order for the service, so it only makes sense for me when I have a sizable order and when the store is crowded. It is nice to not have to deal with the in-store bullshit after a long day at work though.


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Next month we are going down to one car, so we've been experimenting with a delivery service. It's $49/year and it's free delivery from three local grocery stores, a pharmacy, liquor store, pet store and Costco.

It's working out very well. I place an order t 11:00 a.m. and have stuff at my house by noon.

We're going to save a ton of money getting rid of the second car.

[MilSpecs]

Oh, whaaa! It's cold outside. Pumping gas in the cold is bad!

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When frostbite can happens in less than 30 minutes- it's bad outside and I am a Northern too- so is MilSpec. We are all dealing with weather we are not use to. No one except for some people along the Canadian boarder, Canada, and Alaska has to deal with this EVERY YEAR. This is really a bad winter for all in the Northeast. Hell, in some places certain infrastructures are failing due to the cold and a major ass nor'easter was hammering the coast.

I live in Mass. I was dead center of that storm. This was bad? Seriously?

It's been on average with wind about -10 to -20 each day/night. We pump our gas; we walk to the store, we get ice coffee.

If all of you were used to this, this weather comes around about once a decade. There is nothing terrible about this storm.

Bullshit. I've been talking to family in Massachusetts and this is not normal. Water mains are breaking from the cold all over the Boston area. People from Rochester and Buffalo are impressed by the sustained low temps. A noreaster would be a pleasant diversion.

[Speaker to Animals]

Sucks to be North pof the Armageddon line.

[DBTrek]

[The Conservative]

When frostbite can happens in less than 30 minutes- it's bad outside and I am a Northern too- so is MilSpec. We are all dealing with weather we are not use to. No one except for some people along the Canadian boarder, Canada, and Alaska has to deal with this EVERY YEAR. This is really a bad winter for all in the Northeast. Hell, in some places certain infrastructures are failing due to the cold and a major ass nor'easter was hammering the coast.

I live in Mass. I was dead center of that storm. This was bad? Seriously?

It's been on average with wind about -10 to -20 each day/night. We pump our gas; we walk to the store, we get ice coffee.

If all of you were used to this, this weather comes around about once a decade. There is nothing terrible about this storm.

Bullshit. I've been talking to family in Massachusetts and this is not normal. Water mains are breaking from the cold all over the Boston area. People from Rochester and Buffalo are impressed by the sustained low temps. A noreaster would be a pleasant diversion.

The pipes that are breaking in many cases are over 50 years old. Let's not make something out more than it is.

These people you are talking to, I don't know who they are, but what do you expect from a blue state in where feelings are more important than infrastructure? Our infrastructure has been failing for over 20 years... Our bridges are being condemned, and pipe bursts, as well as manhole explosions, are not unusual here.

Things are failing because they have been left to rot longer than they should.

This is not a bad storm; this is just a perfect storm of situations coming to fruition at the same time.

Also, there was the 1993 storm and 2014 storm that were a hell of a lot worse than this one.

Just because pipes burst this time mean nothing, it's wear and rare of temperature changes that cause that to happen.

[BjornP]

I do not buy that it is an either/or scenario. One can be both for investing in and upgrading the skills of the menial laborer and holding off the inevitable onslaught of automation as long as possible to allow a smoother transition of those workers from unskilled to skilled. Yes I would rather our economy be based on skilled labor than neo-ludditism, but in the very possible event that society decides not to invest in these programs, or they are not sufficient, I would prefer seeing make-work to mass unemployment. I understand this defies the free-market principle but I don't care about any of that.

And I actually do think there is a world of difference between a menial low paying job and no job. If you ask the people that would otherwise be unemployed they will tell you the same.

I don't advocate an either/or position in regards to the transitional period, either. Nor am I a "the business owners is always right" kinda guy. I simply don't see that make-work program as a solution to unemployment or the smooth transition part. I see it as a stall. A bad stall, because you're supposed to stall something because you, at least, have some solution or possible solution you need time to realize. "Free market" advocates usually just use the term as code speak for "Getting big, fat government to make rules that exclusively benefit our business interests". If free markets were free, it would be as free for the seller of labor services as it was free for the buyer of labor services. Without strong unions, your interests as an employee can only be protected by a distant government, who for the most part get their money from the donations by the guys who you work for, anyway.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

All ya'll self-checkout slaves will be first against the wall when the revolution comes, you mark my words.

[The Conservative]

All ya'll self-checkout slaves will be first against the wall when the revolution comes, you mark my words.

I'd be happy to get rid of self-checkout myself. I think it's the stupidest thing a store can put in, especially since almost all of them don't give a discount when using them for doing the work of an employee.

[DBTrek]

All ya'll self-checkout slaves will be first against the wall when the revolution comes, you mark my words.

Only a danger if the revolutionaries manage to find some “qualified professionals” to pull the triggers for them.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

All ya'll self-checkout slaves will be first against the wall when the revolution comes, you mark my words.

Only a danger if the revolutionaries manage to find some “qualified professionals” to pull the triggers for them.

What? Revolutionaries can't hire mercenaries? Time honored tradition, that.