SARS Pt. 2 - Wuhan Boogaloo

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Post by StCapps » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:11 am

Time to get high as giraffe pussy and watch some Better Call Saul, woop woop.
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Post by Xenophon » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:19 am

Someone from our home precinct is exhibiting COVID symptoms. Everybody at the FOB with me is symptom free. All 6 or so of us. We all have our own offices within the shoot house, but I'm the only ones with the dummies you have to drag that simulate the weight of a human body. They're sitting in chairs around the table with me.

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Re: SARS Pt. 2 - Wuhan Boogaloo

Post by Fife » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:23 am

Hastur wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:56 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:40 am
Hastur wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:48 pm
My son is 17. 18 this summer. His girlfriend has moved in with us for the time being. Her mother has just gone through chemo and is back home. Girlfriend doesn't want to be totally isolated and she doesn't want to expose her mother to infections so we have a third child for now.
Have you done any prepping or just business as usual ?
We are stocked up pretty fine. We're working from home. If I need to shop I try to take every precaution.
Lots of long walks in the forest with the dog.
I saw this piece this morning, Hastur, and am wondering if this seems accurate from your POV?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus- ... 27459.html
Sweden’s approach appeals to the public’s self-restraint and sense of responsibility, Tegnell said.

“That’s the way we work in Sweden. Our whole system for communicable disease control is based on voluntary action. The immunization system is completely voluntary, and there is 98% coverage,” he explained.

“You give them the option to do what is best in their lives,” he added. “That works very well, according to our experience.”

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Re: SARS Pt. 2 - Wuhan Boogaloo

Post by Hastur » Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:04 am

Fife wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:23 am
Hastur wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:56 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:40 am


Have you done any prepping or just business as usual ?
We are stocked up pretty fine. We're working from home. If I need to shop I try to take every precaution.
Lots of long walks in the forest with the dog.
I saw this piece this morning, Hastur, and am wondering if this seems accurate from your POV?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus- ... 27459.html
Sweden’s approach appeals to the public’s self-restraint and sense of responsibility, Tegnell said.

“That’s the way we work in Sweden. Our whole system for communicable disease control is based on voluntary action. The immunization system is completely voluntary, and there is 98% coverage,” he explained.

“You give them the option to do what is best in their lives,” he added. “That works very well, according to our experience.”
Well.... How shall I put this. I'm trying to figure out how to explain it to someone who don't know Sweden and Swedes.

I'll say "we" even if I consider myself as an outlier in our society. If I was transplanted somewhere else my Swedishness would probably still stand out like a sore thumb.

Swedish exceptionalism. We think we are special. Better than others. At the same time that we claim that there is nothing uniquely Swedish. :roll: (Se SAS commercial).
Even if other countries see problems we think we can do it. Just look at the refugee crisis. We are 10% better, so we can take on a burden that is 250% bigger. :roll:
Our politicians like to hide behind experts in times of troubles. That way they can blame their lack of action on someone else. It is also a very old tradition of our government going back to the 1600's and the guy in my profile pic that built up our institutions and way of governing. The idea is to avoid ministerial rule. That is our version of separation of powers, long before Montesquieu. It's well explained on Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministerstyre

The problem with Tegnell and his Public Health Agency is that they have been very slow to react, and they have been practising what can best be described as Naïve realism. They have constantly been conflating absence of evidence with evidence of absence. In February, he said that there was no evidence that there was a general spread of the virus in the Italian Alps, so he couldn't advise against going there. There was no evidence of facemasks working, so there was no point in recommending using them. Even though we started to get a lot of cases they all had been abroad, so there was no cause to assume a general domestic spread. Do you begin to see a pattern?
We still don't know how this will end but if we come out OK, it will not be because of our political leadership or our Public Health Agency. It will be due to sheer luck.

Yes, Minister got it right.

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Re: SARS Pt. 2 - Wuhan Boogaloo

Post by StCapps » Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:26 am

Hastur wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:04 am
We still don't know how this will end but if we come out OK, it will not be because of our political leadership or our Public Health Agency. It will be due to lack of panic.
Fixed that for you.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:26 am

Hastur wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:11 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:32 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:29 pm


Ok, boomer. ;)
Go get an 870 Express Tactical, before they close the gun shops

I don't like kids, but even I feel sorry for yours now
Some decent advice on the subject.

Like I say, I just go with handgun, shotgun, carbine, battle rifle

In Canada, my handguns and carbine are restricted to the range, by shotgun & battle rifle are not

So twelve gauge pump is the primary, the battle rifle is more of a hobby gun
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Re: SARS Pt. 2 - Wuhan Boogaloo

Post by StCapps » Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:29 am

Don't go SIFCLF Sweden, it won't help.
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Post by Hastur » Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:34 am

Death rates in the Nordic Countries, accumulated per 1.000.000 PPL.

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Post by Hastur » Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:37 am

Number of total deaths.
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Re: SARS Pt. 2 - Wuhan Boogaloo

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:37 am

NYC daily death update from yesterday

It's not all old people and there is even one minor

It is almost all people with underlying conditions

Thing is, the underlying conditions are very common ones

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloa ... deaths.pdf
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