How is taking shots for being rich from Democrats, help the Democrats? It doesn't, it makes the Democrats less supportable, not more.SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:15 pmGiven the number of shots that the other candidates took at him, because he’s rich... he may just be there as a straw man to rally support for the dems in general. That would be some deep game, actually...
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Sunk cost fallacy for the fail.clubgop wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:20 pmI don't think he does prevent a brokered convention. I guess the thinking was he was going to fly to the rescue, carpet bombing money along the way either winning outright or going with a number of delegates from big blue states to take it to a convention. Right now, that thinking doesn't look too good. But he is pot committed.Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:56 pmI guess I don't understand his gameplan. There is no way he is going to get enough votes to trigger a brokered convention, and he is starving the other candidates out of the race, making a brokered convention that much harder.clubgop wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:54 pm
He could have done just that for decades. He could've have done that now and just blew things up. He wants to win, he is not going to spend that kind of money just to be a spoiler. If he wants to be on the general election ballot in all 50 states he should've run as an independent and spend the money running against everybody then? As of now he is subject to sore loser laws. He won't be allowed on the ballot in some states. All that talent and infrastructure he has been building up, collapses many of these guys stake their reputations as being political hacks.
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Well, if your base needs a rallying cry for Socialism, and you’re running against the first billionaire in office.. why not use your own billionaire as a target, to remind them of the evils they must destroy?StCapps wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:24 pmHow is taking shots for being rich from Democrats, help the Democrats? It doesn't, it makes the Democrats less supportable, not more.SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:15 pmGiven the number of shots that the other candidates took at him, because he’s rich... he may just be there as a straw man to rally support for the dems in general. That would be some deep game, actually...
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Socialism is a small base that alienates the center, rallying them loses more votes than it gains. Also Bloomberg hates the socialists, so he isn't deliberately trying to help them win.SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:51 pmWell, if your base needs a rallying cry for Socialism, and you’re running against the first billionaire in office.. why not use your own billionaire as a target, to remind them of the evils they must destroy?StCapps wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:24 pmHow is taking shots for being rich from Democrats, help the Democrats? It doesn't, it makes the Democrats less supportable, not more.SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:15 pmGiven the number of shots that the other candidates took at him, because he’s rich... he may just be there as a straw man to rally support for the dems in general. That would be some deep game, actually...
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You might be surprised how many Americans are sick of getting screwed over. The elected a buffoon, don’t think they won’t elect a socialist.StCapps wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:15 pmSocialism is a small base that alienates the center, rallying them loses more votes than it gains.SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:51 pmWell, if your base needs a rallying cry for Socialism, and you’re running against the first billionaire in office.. why not use your own billionaire as a target, to remind them of the evils they must destroy?
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Why not organize a super PAC to back Warren, who actually did split Bernie's votes, and then enter the race to replace Biden? I don't understand the logic behind fucking over Warren and then having to come at least close to winning half the electorate.clubgop wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:20 pmI don't think he does prevent a brokered convention. I guess the thinking was he was going to fly to the rescue, carpet bombing money along the way either winning outright or going with a number of delegates from big blue states to take it to a convention. Right now, that thinking doesn't look too good. But he is pot committed.Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:56 pmI guess I don't understand his gameplan. There is no way he is going to get enough votes to trigger a brokered convention, and he is starving the other candidates out of the race, making a brokered convention that much harder.clubgop wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:54 pm
He could have done just that for decades. He could've have done that now and just blew things up. He wants to win, he is not going to spend that kind of money just to be a spoiler. If he wants to be on the general election ballot in all 50 states he should've run as an independent and spend the money running against everybody then? As of now he is subject to sore loser laws. He won't be allowed on the ballot in some states. All that talent and infrastructure he has been building up, collapses many of these guys stake their reputations as being political hacks.
I still don't think even that would win, but it's the only viable shot I could have seen, though admittedly I am not experienced at campaigning. I can tell you from experience on the ground most democrats are for Bernie and have been for some time. The media was just creating a fake narrative that whole time.
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You might be surprised how many Americans don't think socialism will screw them over less than the status quo. 61% of Americans are better off than they were when Trump was elected, socialism doesn't sell in such conditions.SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:17 pmYou might be surprised how many Americans are sick of getting screwed over. The elected a buffoon, don’t think they won’t elect a socialist.StCapps wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:15 pmSocialism is a small base that alienates the center, rallying them loses more votes than it gains.SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:51 pm
Well, if your base needs a rallying cry for Socialism, and you’re running against the first billionaire in office.. why not use your own billionaire as a target, to remind them of the evils they must destroy?
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Doesn’t really matter does it? We gave the nuclear codes to a reality star. I’d say this is desperation time.StCapps wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:21 pmYou might be surprised how many Americans don't think socialism will screw them over less than the status quo. Buffoon > SocialistSuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:17 pmYou might be surprised how many Americans are sick of getting screwed over. The elected a buffoon, don’t think they won’t elect a socialist.
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61% of Americans don't agree, as things have gotten better for them then it was three years after giving the nuclear codes to a reality star. If the economy isn't in the tank come election day, socialism ain't going to sell.SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:24 pmDoesn’t really matter does it? We gave the nuclear codes to a reality star. I’d say this is desperation time.StCapps wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:21 pmYou might be surprised how many Americans don't think socialism will screw them over less than the status quo. Buffoon > SocialistSuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:17 pm
You might be surprised how many Americans are sick of getting screwed over. The elected a buffoon, don’t think they won’t elect a socialist.
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You underestimate the stupid.StCapps wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:15 pmSocialism is a small base that alienates the center, rallying them loses more votes than it gains. Also Bloomberg hates the socialists, so he isn't deliberately trying to help them win.SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:51 pmWell, if your base needs a rallying cry for Socialism, and you’re running against the first billionaire in office.. why not use your own billionaire as a target, to remind them of the evils they must destroy?
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