Why are you conservative, why are you liberal, why are you independent?

[doc_loliday]

Classical liberalism built the greatest civilization the world has ever seen. I wonder if a new system will ever surpass it.

[Speaker to Animals]

It basically laid the groundwork for the destruction of the greatest civilization. It's a rot.

[jediuser598]

All I need to do is bring up the morality issue and the liberals make all the examples I need to show.

Happy to be of service.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Its really simple, and it doesn't require government

You simply make degenerate behavior morally abhorrent without being illegal. The herd mentality of people means that the vast majority of people won't do something morally abhorrent whether it is against the law or not. Laws don't stop people from doing what they want, morality does

Thank you.

It's funny that after legislating christians are dealt defeat after defeat they finally come up with this stance. Well duh! This should have been your stance in the beginning!

I don't want to determine your culture for you. You should be perfectly within your rights to say "Hey, I don't approve of that, I'm going to not invite you into my home if you have purple hair, or if you're adam and steve, or if you chop off your dick and take estrogen, or if you normalize everything I despise." I vehemently disagree with people getting fired for not calling people by their "appropriate" pronoun. That's bat shit crazy. What I also disagree with is people saying "Oh, well you can't sell alchohol on Sundays because of religion" or "gay people can't get married, because of religion."

Now if a private employer wants to fire someone because they find it morally reprehensible that you didn't call Frank a she, even though Frank is the manliest man you've ever come across, well that's their prerogative, isn't it? That's them setting up their own morals, and enforcing them through not hiring/firing people who don't agree with them.

I imagine the perfect United States to be similar to Europe in its diversity. Washington State shouldn't be like Texas. Portland shouldn't be like Alabama. Different people, different culture. Hell, I don't even think it's necessary to speak the same language. Sure, we come together in times where we need to protect ourselves as a nation, and if a storm devastates your area, we should help each other out (vice versa as well) but you know what? You get your own culture. You get to live the life in the culture you choose.

I agree. Still a bit on the fence about culture, though.

If we can’t even agree on a common language, or some kind of principles, then the nation-state is meaningless. It’s just a tax farm for the military, at that point.

[jediuser598]

[jediuser598]

I agree. Still a bit on the fence about culture, though.

If we can’t even agree on a common language, or some kind of principles, then the nation-state is meaningless. It’s just a tax farm for the military, at that point.

The American dream is freedom to live as we choose.

[Okeefenokee]

No it isn't.

[Viktorthepirate]

I think the American dream has something to do with telling people who they can fuck and when apparently.

[SuburbanFarmer]

The only consistent "American Dream" that I've been informed of, is to own a house and pay perpetual property taxes, until you die.

There's a vague idea that hard working people can "succeed" here, but that's pretty demonstrably false.

There's also something about "self-determination", but we're well on the way to totalitarianism.

I've lived to see our dominant culture shift all the way into "Fuck you, pay me", and corporate drivel media.

So.... Yeah, we're pretty much a geographic area that controls the global oil supply and manipulates the financial markets.

[jediuser598]