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Re: Fighting about real sports, hockey, IOC

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:57 pm

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Smitty-48 wrote:Was that Komarov who just went in front and screened the point shot for the goal? Seems fine to me.
He sucks. He isn't going to be part of the team long term, so how does it benefit the long game to play him so much? Not seeing it, experiment a failure, get better Babcock. Stop playing Bozak so much too while you're at it.
I'm fine with Komarov on the fourth line and killing penalties, Komarov bashing is bullshit, he's not the problem, Bozak is the third line center and he's putting up third line center numbers at a third line center price, Bozak bashing is bullshit too, he's not the problem either, the problem is pretty simple, the kids are soft and they're not reliable without the puck and Babcock is right to keep sending them the message about it with the ice time, long view, earn your icetime if you want to take it from a veteran, nobody gets handed icetime they haven't earned in the grind.

We know you can dipsy doodle, but that's not enough, if you want more ice time, you're gonna have to dig in and get dirtied up.
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Re: Fighting about real sports, hockey, IOC

Post by StCapps » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:01 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
StCapps wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Was that Komarov who just went in front and screened the point shot for the goal? Seems fine to me.
He sucks. He isn't going to be part of the team long term, so how does it benefit the long game to play him so much? Not seeing it, experiment a failure, get better Babcock. Stop playing Bozak so much too while you're at it.
I'm fine with Komarov on the fourth line and killing penalties, Komarov bashing is bullshit, he's not the problem, Bozak is the third line center and he's putting up third line center numbers at a third line center price, Bozak bashing is bullshit too, he's not the problem either, the problem is pretty simple, the kids are soft and they're not reliable without the puck.
If Komarov was getting third line ice time, that would be fine, he's playing more than Marner though, and is playing as much as Nylander, that's just dumb. Play your best players and give them the ice time they need to develop.

Komarov and Bozak aren't going to be back next year either, so play other players who will be and could use the ice time for development sake. It's not rocket surgery. It's like the Avs playing Gabriel Borque too much, while Kerfoot gets less than 14:00 a night, like wtf Bednar. Why is Anton Lindholm not back in the AHL? He's fucking hot garbage.
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Re: Fighting about real sports, hockey, IOC

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:06 pm

StCapps wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
StCapps wrote:He sucks. He isn't going to be part of the team long term, so how does it benefit the long game to play him so much? Not seeing it, experiment a failure, get better Babcock. Stop playing Bozak so much too while you're at it.
I'm fine with Komarov on the fourth line and killing penalties, Komarov bashing is bullshit, he's not the problem, Bozak is the third line center and he's putting up third line center numbers at a third line center price, Bozak bashing is bullshit too, he's not the problem either, the problem is pretty simple, the kids are soft and they're not reliable without the puck.
If Komarov was getting third line ice time, that would be fine, he's playing more than Marner though, and is playing as much as Nylander, that's just dumb. Play your best players and give them the ice time they need to develop.

Komarov and Bozak aren't going to be back next year either, so play other players who will be and could use the ice time for development sake. It's not rocket surgery.
I'm fine with Komarov on the fourth line and killing penalties, Komarov bashing is bullshit, he's not the problem, Bozak is the third line center and he's putting up third line center numbers at a third line center price, Bozak bashing is bullshit too, he's not the problem either, the problem is pretty simple, the kids are soft and they're not reliable without the puck, Babcock is right to keep sending them the message by doling out the icetime based on who is up for the grind and who isn't.
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Re: Fighting about real sports, hockey, IOC

Post by StCapps » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:08 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
StCapps wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
I'm fine with Komarov on the fourth line and killing penalties, Komarov bashing is bullshit, he's not the problem, Bozak is the third line center and he's putting up third line center numbers at a third line center price, Bozak bashing is bullshit too, he's not the problem either, the problem is pretty simple, the kids are soft and they're not reliable without the puck.
If Komarov was getting third line ice time, that would be fine, he's playing more than Marner though, and is playing as much as Nylander, that's just dumb. Play your best players and give them the ice time they need to develop.

Komarov and Bozak aren't going to be back next year either, so play other players who will be and could use the ice time for development sake. It's not rocket surgery.
I'm fine with Komarov on the fourth line and killing penalties, Komarov bashing is bullshit, he's not the problem, Bozak is the third line center and he's putting up third line center numbers at a third line center price, Bozak bashing is bullshit too, he's not the problem either, the problem is pretty simple, the kids are soft and they're not reliable without the puck
Komarov ain't getting fourth line ice time, and he's not on the team come next year, obvious choice is obvious, play Marner and Nylander more and fuck Bozak and Komarov getting near the same ice time as them.
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Re: Fighting about real sports, hockey, IOC

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:09 pm

StCapps wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
StCapps wrote:If Komarov was getting third line ice time, that would be fine, he's playing more than Marner though, and is playing as much as Nylander, that's just dumb. Play your best players and give them the ice time they need to develop.

Komarov and Bozak aren't going to be back next year either, so play other players who will be and could use the ice time for development sake. It's not rocket surgery.
I'm fine with Komarov on the fourth line and killing penalties, Komarov bashing is bullshit, he's not the problem, Bozak is the third line center and he's putting up third line center numbers at a third line center price, Bozak bashing is bullshit too, he's not the problem either, the problem is pretty simple, the kids are soft and they're not reliable without the puck
Komarov ain't getting fourth line ice time, and he's not on the team come next year, obvious choice is obvious, play Marner and Nylander more and fuck Bozak and Komarov getting near the same ice time as them.
I'm fine with Komarov on the fourth line and killing penalties, Komarov bashing is bullshit, he's not the problem, Bozak is the third line center and he's putting up third line center numbers at a third line center price, Bozak bashing is bullshit too, he's not the problem either, the problem is pretty simple, the kids are soft and they're not reliable without the puck, Babcock is right to keep sending them the message by doling out the icetime based on who is up for the grind and who isn't.
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Re: And just how good is Komarov, anyway?

Post by StCapps » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:14 pm

The message isn't getting through, they are just tuning Babcock out, you said it yourself. Anyone who plays Komarov more than Marner and almost as much Nylander should be chastised accordingly, don't snow. See play more Nylander, what I say?
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Re: And just how good is Komarov, anyway?

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:19 pm

StCapps wrote:The message isn't getting through, they are just tuning Babcock out, you said it yourself. Anyone who plays Komarov more than Marner and almost as much Nylander should be chastised accordingly, don't snow. See play more Nylander, what I say?
Yes, we know Willy can score on a breakaway, but big picture, he doesn't play any defence, he doesn't grind, he floats around and is a liability without the puck, there's no sense trying to train Willy to score, that's not a trainable skill, but he's not a 20 minute a night player until he gets with playing on both sides of the puck.
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Re: And just how good is Komarov, anyway?

Post by StCapps » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:21 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
StCapps wrote:The message isn't getting through, they are just tuning Babcock out, you said it yourself. Anyone who plays Komarov more than Marner and almost as much Nylander should be chastised accordingly, don't snow. See play more Nylander, what I say?
Yes, we know Willy can score on a breakaway, but big picture, he doesn't play any defence, he doesn't grind, he floats around and is a liability without the puck, there's no sense trying to train Willy to score, that's not a trainable skill, but he's not a 20 minute a night player until he gets with playing on both sides of the puck.
So give him a couple more so he can work on that part of his game before you give 20 mins a night.
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Re: And just how good is Komarov, anyway?

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:24 pm

StCapps wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
StCapps wrote:The message isn't getting through, they are just tuning Babcock out, you said it yourself. Anyone who plays Komarov more than Marner and almost as much Nylander should be chastised accordingly, don't snow. See play more Nylander, what I say?
Yes, we know Willy can score on a breakaway, but big picture, he doesn't play any defence, he doesn't grind, he floats around and is a liability without the puck, there's no sense trying to train Willy to score, that's not a trainable skill, but he's not a 20 minute a night player until he gets with playing on both sides of the puck.
So give him a couple more so he can work on that part of his game before you give 20 mins a night.
No, you work on that in practice, he's getting over 16 minutes now, he's not getting four more minutes unless he comes out and executes on both sides of the puck, which, he's not doing tonight, I see him scoring, but I also see him going for a skate in his own end and not picking up his assignment, so 16 minutes is more than fair for that level of effort.

Babcock is sending the right message, no free ice time for prima donna play, want more ice time, dig in and grind.
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Re: Really, it's just Smitty and Capps, doin' their thing.

Post by StCapps » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:27 pm

Best players on your team shouldn't get the most ice time, let third and fourth line guys who won't be on team next year play more instead, that's the ticket! They might suck on offense, but defensively they are a lame attempt to send the message Babcock wants to send, that's a net positive, somehow.....

Was worth a shot, but it's not working, message not getting through, doing more harm than good, switch it up.
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