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Re: Statues

Post by The Conservative » Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:28 pm

C-Mag wrote:Ya know, the funny thing is that I will bet you that there's prominent Dems out there with Grandparents and Great Grandparents involved with erecting these memorials.
My great, great grandfathers and uncles were both on the north and south. They fought with Robert E. Lee, and Stonewall Jackson, as well as other generals in their time. One actually shot his foot so he wouldn't have to fight his brother in an upcoming battle at the time. It truly doesn't matter one way or the other who was on what side, but that it happened.

Removing statues because they offend someone is like saying that teachers should be punished because they gave a student a bad grade for not doing their homework. Both are idiotic at best.

I really am tired of people saying removing statues will fix this... what happens after it? Who gets removed from where next? Will we be told it's not ok to insult black people because it may hurt their feelings? Will we be told to hire Colin Kaepernick because he's black, never mind that he fucking sucks as a QB never mind a backup?

How about we treat everyone, all the same, if you are stupid you are called out for it. If you are acting like a douche, we call you out for it. If you are a racist bastard and we have real proof (not just name calling) we will call you out for it. IF you are bad at your job, you get shitcanned and we tell you why.

I don't know about the rest of you, but if we treated people like we want to be treated we probably would be better off, but also we would probably be in a situation where we would be almost back to the 1950s and 1960s where we knew where people stood, and we didn't beat around the bush. Also at the same time, we would be having people actually have to be good at their jobs instead of crying every time they fuck themselves over.
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Re: Statues

Post by C-Mag » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:06 pm

The Conservative wrote:
I really am tired of people saying removing statues will fix this... what happens after it? Who gets removed from where next? Will we be told it's not ok to insult black people because it may hurt their feelings? Will we be told to hire Colin Kaepernick because he's black, never mind that he fucking sucks as a QB never mind a backup?
+1

Good Point

I heard Newt Gingrich say, this fight is too far down the road. There will be no great compromise, one side or the other will win.
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Re: Statues

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Aug 24, 2017 5:47 am

C-Mag wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
I really am tired of people saying removing statues will fix this... what happens after it? Who gets removed from where next? Will we be told it's not ok to insult black people because it may hurt their feelings? Will we be told to hire Colin Kaepernick because he's black, never mind that he fucking sucks as a QB never mind a backup?
+1

Good Point

I heard Newt Gingrich say, this fight is too far down the road. There will be no great compromise, one side or the other will win.

I am going with the side that has guns as the eventual winners.

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Re: Statues

Post by Hastur » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:30 am

White people, here are 10 requests from a Black Lives Matter leader
AUG 16 2017
BY CHANELLE HELM

[This article is part of a package covering Louisville’s reaction to Charlottesville. Check out the other pieces, including Ricky Jones’ column “Black People Should Arm Themselves Now!” and Erica Rucker’s “America… where are you going?”]

Some things I’m thinking about that should change (in that Southern, black grandmama voice):

1. White people, if you don’t have any descendants, will your property to a black or brown family. Preferably one that lives in generational poverty.

2. White people, if you’re inheriting property you intend to sell upon acceptance, give it to a black or brown family. You’re bound to make that money in some other white privileged way.

3. If you are a developer or realty owner of multi-family housing, build a sustainable complex in a black or brown blighted neighborhood and let black and brown people live in it for free.

4. White people, if you can afford to downsize, give up the home you own to a black or brown family. Preferably a family from generational poverty.

5. White people, if any of the people you intend to leave your property to are racists assholes, change the will, and will your property to a black or brown family. Preferably a family from generational poverty.

6. White people, re-budget your monthly so you can donate to black funds for land purchasing.

7. White people, especially white women (because this is yaw specialty — Nosey Jenny and Meddling Kathy), get a racist fired. Yaw know what the fuck they be saying. You are complicit when you ignore them. Get your boss fired cause they racist too.

8. Backing up No. 7, this should be easy but all those sheetless Klan, Nazi’s and Other lil’ dick-white men will all be returning to work. Get they ass fired. Call the police even: they look suspicious.

9. OK, backing up No. 8, if any white person at your work, or as you enter in spaces and you overhear a white person praising the actions from yesterday, first, get a pic. Get their name and more info. Hell, find out where they work — Get Them Fired. But certainly address them, and, if you need to, you got hands: use them.

10. Commit to two things: Fighting white supremacy where and how you can (this doesn’t mean taking up knitting, unless you’re making scarves for black and brown kids in need), and funding black and brown people and their work.

#RunUsOurLand #Reparations #YouGonLearnToday #RunUsOurMoney •

Chanelle Helm is cofounder and core organizer of Black Lives Matter Louisville.

PayPal: chanellehelm@gmail.com

Venmo: chanellehelm

Cashapp: CBHelm
https://www.leoweekly.com/2017/08/white-people/
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Re: Statues

Post by The Conservative » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:51 am

Hastur wrote:
White people, here are 10 requests from a Black Lives Matter leader
AUG 16 2017
BY CHANELLE HELM

[This article is part of a package covering Louisville’s reaction to Charlottesville. Check out the other pieces, including Ricky Jones’ column “Black People Should Arm Themselves Now!” and Erica Rucker’s “America… where are you going?”]

Some things I’m thinking about that should change (in that Southern, black grandmama voice):

1. White people, if you don’t have any descendants, will your property to a black or brown family. Preferably one that lives in generational poverty.

2. White people, if you’re inheriting property you intend to sell upon acceptance, give it to a black or brown family. You’re bound to make that money in some other white privileged way.

3. If you are a developer or realty owner of multi-family housing, build a sustainable complex in a black or brown blighted neighborhood and let black and brown people live in it for free.

4. White people, if you can afford to downsize, give up the home you own to a black or brown family. Preferably a family from generational poverty.

5. White people, if any of the people you intend to leave your property to are racists assholes, change the will, and will your property to a black or brown family. Preferably a family from generational poverty.

6. White people, re-budget your monthly so you can donate to black funds for land purchasing.

7. White people, especially white women (because this is yaw specialty — Nosey Jenny and Meddling Kathy), get a racist fired. Yaw know what the fuck they be saying. You are complicit when you ignore them. Get your boss fired cause they racist too.

8. Backing up No. 7, this should be easy but all those sheetless Klan, Nazi’s and Other lil’ dick-white men will all be returning to work. Get they ass fired. Call the police even: they look suspicious.

9. OK, backing up No. 8, if any white person at your work, or as you enter in spaces and you overhear a white person praising the actions from yesterday, first, get a pic. Get their name and more info. Hell, find out where they work — Get Them Fired. But certainly address them, and, if you need to, you got hands: use them.

10. Commit to two things: Fighting white supremacy where and how you can (this doesn’t mean taking up knitting, unless you’re making scarves for black and brown kids in need), and funding black and brown people and their work.

#RunUsOurLand #Reparations #YouGonLearnToday #RunUsOurMoney •

Chanelle Helm is cofounder and core organizer of Black Lives Matter Louisville.

PayPal: chanellehelm@gmail.com

Venmo: chanellehelm

Cashapp: CBHelm
https://www.leoweekly.com/2017/08/white-people/
And for me, I have one request for the BLM leadership. Take a long walk off a very, very short pier.
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Re: Statues

Post by Kazmyr » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:56 am

Hastur wrote:
White people, here are 10 requests from a Black Lives Matter leader
AUG 16 2017
BY CHANELLE HELM

[This article is part of a package covering Louisville’s reaction to Charlottesville. Check out the other pieces, including Ricky Jones’ column “Black People Should Arm Themselves Now!” and Erica Rucker’s “America… where are you going?”]

Some things I’m thinking about that should change (in that Southern, black grandmama voice):

1. White people, if you don’t have any descendants, will your property to a black or brown family. Preferably one that lives in generational poverty.

2. White people, if you’re inheriting property you intend to sell upon acceptance, give it to a black or brown family. You’re bound to make that money in some other white privileged way.

3. If you are a developer or realty owner of multi-family housing, build a sustainable complex in a black or brown blighted neighborhood and let black and brown people live in it for free.

4. White people, if you can afford to downsize, give up the home you own to a black or brown family. Preferably a family from generational poverty.

5. White people, if any of the people you intend to leave your property to are racists assholes, change the will, and will your property to a black or brown family. Preferably a family from generational poverty.

6. White people, re-budget your monthly so you can donate to black funds for land purchasing.

7. White people, especially white women (because this is yaw specialty — Nosey Jenny and Meddling Kathy), get a racist fired. Yaw know what the fuck they be saying. You are complicit when you ignore them. Get your boss fired cause they racist too.

8. Backing up No. 7, this should be easy but all those sheetless Klan, Nazi’s and Other lil’ dick-white men will all be returning to work. Get they ass fired. Call the police even: they look suspicious.

9. OK, backing up No. 8, if any white person at your work, or as you enter in spaces and you overhear a white person praising the actions from yesterday, first, get a pic. Get their name and more info. Hell, find out where they work — Get Them Fired. But certainly address them, and, if you need to, you got hands: use them.

10. Commit to two things: Fighting white supremacy where and how you can (this doesn’t mean taking up knitting, unless you’re making scarves for black and brown kids in need), and funding black and brown people and their work.

#RunUsOurLand #Reparations #YouGonLearnToday #RunUsOurMoney •

Chanelle Helm is cofounder and core organizer of Black Lives Matter Louisville.

PayPal: chanellehelm@gmail.com

Venmo: chanellehelm

Cashapp: CBHelm
https://www.leoweekly.com/2017/08/white-people/
Where's Fife with a gibs alert when you need him?!

This is just... wow.
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Re: Statues

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:58 am

Liberia 2.

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Re: Statues

Post by The Conservative » Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:00 am

Kazmyr wrote:
Where's Fife with a gibs alert when you need him?!

This is just... wow.
Not really, this is what they have always been about, free shit they didn't earn.

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Re: Statues

Post by Kazmyr » Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:11 am

This is a different approach to things. Cut out the government middle man and just go direct to the source. "How to Get Gibs: The Highwayman's Approach"

I'd almost love to hear the explanation from as to why these things need to change and what's the goal.
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Re: Statues

Post by apeman » Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:13 am

That BLM list of demands is fake I think.

Altho it is impossible to tell nowadays