Why Can’t America Have Beerhalls?

[StCapps]

I don't buy resign on the cheap, next contract is going to be the big contract, Karlsson would like to take a couple runs at it with his buddy Hedman, but after that all bets are off, Karlsson is not taking a haircut like Stamkos did, but he would try to win the Cup in the next two years before he goes for his big payday.

Well he'll take less of haircut, but the lack of income tax makes the money go longer, so they can resign him cheaper than most NHL teams could while still satisfying him. He won't miss out on the big payday though no matter what happens, and who can blame him, get that money Erik.

[Smitty-48]

Karlsson has already taken a haircut in Ottawa, he's making six point five, less than Phaneuf, next time around, Karlsson is going for his set for life contract, Connor McDavid money zone.

[StCapps]

Karlsson has already taken a haircut in Ottawa, he's making six point five, less than Phaneuf, next time around, Karlsson is going for his set for life contract, Connor McDavid money zone.

He could if he wants to, that's for sure. If he has already won the cup by then, he could just take the money and run without having to worry about never winning a cup. But there's always a chance he might go, what's one or two million less than McDavid, if I get to keep playing with Hedman, Stamkos and Kucherov, even if he does win.

[Smitty-48]

I don't see him taking enough of a haircut to fit into Tampa's cap, a haircut for Karlsson would be like 8 x $11.5 million, but I don't think Stevie Y is worried, I think Yzerman is just pulling out the stops to win now, back to back, and then reset in two years.

[Smitty-48]

Bear in mind, the sticking point is that Ottawa wants somebody off the Tampa roster, Brayden Point or Yanni Gourde, and that seems to be a bridge too far for Yzerman, he's willing to throw picks and prospects, he's even willing to work something out with the Bobby Ryan contract, but he's not willing to surrender any of his young core on the team now.

In other words, he still plans to be in the window beyond the next two years, he's willing to give a lot for Karlsson, but he's planning for Karlsson to be gone after the two years, and so he's not surrendering his one, two, three down the middle.

Ottawa has also apparently asked for Sergachev and he's been saying no on that as well; take the picks prospects, take a whole bunch, we'll take Bobby Ryan away too, but you're not getting anybody from our core, because this might be a two year window for Karlsson, but it goes well beyond two years for us.

[Smitty-48]

It's not that Methot was carrying Karlsson, it's just that Karlsson doesn't play any defence, so he needs a defence caddy to do all the spade work which Karlsson is just too soft and lazy to take care of himself.

Caveat accepted.
PK and Ekholm are the caddy's in Nashville, fyi. It's just they are caddies with plenty of offense and transition game to go with it, so Josi and Ellis can do their thing. Ellis is the worst in his own zone, then Josi, then PK, and Ekholm is the best, that's the order.

Of course all four defensemen are fairly well rounded, but PK is actually the most well rounded of the bunch, yet you still hate on him, despite that being your number one criteria for rating defensemen, except if PK is the most well rounded of the bunch, then you give all the credit to the offensive guys over the better stay at home guys for some weird reason.

I don't hate on his game, I don't think it's worth $9 million, I don't think he's Norris Trophy caliber, and I do think he would be a guy who could get on peoples last nerves after awhile, because he never stops, he never stops running his mouth, he never stops mugging for attention, once in awhile is fine, but PK is pathological about it.

Like, I totally believe that Carey Price was PK's buddy at first, but I can also totally believe that after several years of PK putting himself above the team, that would be enough for anybody in the NHL to say "this is getting real old, PK never takes a break, it's time for a change here, we've had our fill of the It's all about PK show".

[Smitty-48]

I mean, bottom line, PK is not so good that it should be the "it's all about PK show", it's like PK thinks he's Mario Lemieux, but he's not, and Mario did not get on peoples nerves, because even tho Mario was Mario, he didn't have to run off at the mouth about it 24-7-365, quite the opposite, Mario was facta non verba.

PK was strutting around Montreal like he was the Franchise, but he wasn't the Franchise, he wasn't Rocket Richard, he wasn't Jean Beliveau, he's good, but he's not Franchise good, and yet he expects that level of attention, and he will milk and mug to the media to get it, and yeah, in the NHL, that's being a dick.

In Nashville, there's no pressure, they're not under any scrutiny, it's a totally different ballgame in Montreal, and when the team was getting roasted, except for the golden boy PK who could do no wrong, and who was a non stop mouth piece in the room, NHL players are going to buck that, and if the guy's in Nashville were getting roasted like you get roasted in Montreal, they would get sick of it too.

PK put himself above the team, it was PK up here, the rest of them down there, and even Wayne Gretzky never did that, and PK is not in the same universe as Wayne Gretzky, but to start acting like you are, yeah, I don't want that on my team neither, might fly under the radar in Nashville, but not in a pressure cooker like Toronto or Montreal.

PK has no sense of picking his spots, he just keeps going and going no matter the context, pressure cooker in Montreal, PK had no sense that his routine was getting on peoples nerves, and yeah, at that point, sayonara, PK, go to Nashville where there is no pressure if you have to be a dick like that 24-7-365.

[StCapps]

PK does pick his spots, it's just when he does, everyone goes crazy, and that's on them not on PK. I don't buy this putting himself above the team because he gives a good interview, fucking nonsense. I can buy that his act could and does get on some of his teammates nerves, but that's their fault, they shouldn't be getting upset, they just cant stand a hockey player with a personality who isn't bland as fuck getting more media attention than their boring cliche schtick, in a sport where way too many guys go to the boring cliche schtick by default.

I see no signs of PK thinking he's Mario Lemieux, I see no signs of him putting himself above the team, I see no sign that he's pathological about getting attention. Just because he's good at getting attention in a sport where the athletes don't know fuck all about how to do that and they get jealous of his ability to do so, that's not his fault.

I think you hate his flamboyant uppity charismatic attitude, and so you interpret things that way because that's what a bunch of other people who hate him for the same reasons have concluded, and you feel it has the ring of truth to it. Confirmation bias is leading your analysis into the land of hockey media foppery, and you just can't see it.

/shrugs

Plus you seem to think his game hasn't changed much since 2014, which is laughable.

[Smitty-48]

It's funny to see the shoe on the other foot of the trade game with the Habs fans.

It's like, when the Leafs were tanking, you get Tobias Lindberg and Scott Harrington, and you're squinting at them trying to make them look like NHL players, but now looking back at it you're chuckling about it for grasping at those straws.

That's what the Habs fans got in Rychel and Valiev, but they're already talking about Rychel being a "former first rounder" and Valiev "potential top four on the left side"

Yeah, they're in for a letdown, Tobias Lindberg and Scott Harrington were actually better than Rychel and Valiev/ lulz.

[StCapps]

It's funny to see the shoe on the other foot of the trade game with the Habs fans.

It's like, when the Leafs were tanking, you get Tobias Lindberg and Scott Harrington, and you're squinting at them trying to make them look like NHL players, but now looking back at it you're chuckling about it for grasping at those straws.

That's what the Habs fans got in Rychel and Valiev, but they're already talking about Rychel being a "former first rounder" and Valiev "potential top four on the left side"

Yeah, they're in for a letdown, Tobias Lindberg and Scott Harrington were actually better than Rychel and Valiev/ lulz.

Yeah if the Habs think Rychel and Valiev are going to turn into anything other than a completely disposable low end roster player on a shit team, at best, then they are in for a rude awakening. All they really got was a late second rounder and a bag of pucks thrown in.