Europe, Boring Until it's Not

[heydaralon]

GCF: Why don't you volunteer at a soup kitchen or give a homeless person lodging in your house? I'm kind of kidding around, but it seems to me like you care about helping people, so why not try to do something locally? If you wanted to, you could let a few homeless dudes live at your house for awhile, even if it was only in your garage. It would immediately improve their quality of life. Why not adopt a child from a orphanage or foster home? These are ways you could help alleviate suffering in your area. Don't cite safety concerns for your family either. You owe it to these people. Most homeless people are perfectly nice and law abiding, its just the small number that give the rest a bad name.

[Speaker to Animals]

A phobia is an irrational fear of something. None of us fear Muslims. We simply want to protect our society and the people we care about from a culture wholly incompatible with our own. Even if one of us indeed "feared" the violence injected into our society via Muslim immigration, it would not be an irrational fear.

The left's propensity to label people with whom they disagree as having phobias and hatred is really backfiring. Surely this should be obvious by now? At this point, being accused of racism or "Islamaphobia" signals ones victory in a debate. I think at least some on the left realizes they lost the public debate, which is why they now simply resort to violence to shut down those ideas and intimidate people who would express them (which is technically a soft form of terrorism).

[Okeefenokee]

Atrocities are committed on incredible scales, every single day.

So why even bother, right?

Some dude parked without paying in Texas, so why shouldn't we import a couple hundred thousand rapists?

loon.

Perfect example.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Texas

In 2014 there were 923,348 crimes reported in Texas, including 1,184 murders and 8,236 rapes

Sounds like Texas is a crime-ridden hell hole. We should eject them from the union, for the safety of everyone. Bye!

Don't let me stop you. Keep preached that retarded shit. Tell us some more about how because there's tax evasion in New England that we shouldn't bother arresting people for DUI.

You're setting up record numbers for retarded ass fucktard tonight. Make sure you set that record high as fuck.

[heydaralon]

I would like to point out that many of the hundreds of thousands of muslims who rape, riot, and acid attack women in western countries are not "brown people." A good number of them have light skin. They are just as revolting.

That's the problem of trying to call Muslims/Islam a "race".
I know a girl who gets all freaked out and scared by clowns - does that make her "racist" about clowns?

TBH, calling it "islamophobia" is far, far, far more appropriate than "racist", since Islam is not a race but a belief system. Just like being against gays would be homophobia but not really racism. To attempt to use the term "racist" to describe either really weakens the meaning of the word.

This whole idea about Islamaphobia is fucking ridiculous. Since Islam is not linked to one race, and anyone could potentially convert to it, it is more like a culture. The left's fallacy of saying that criticizing cultures is unacceptable, is that every society or group of people, including the most fucked up ones have a culture. Nazi Germany had a culture, so does ISIS, so did the Antebellum South. The left criticizes these cultures, even if they do not label them as such. In fact, it is impossible to make large value judgments on a society level unless you compare and contrast your value system with those of others.

Since westerners are not boarding rafts and sailing to the Middle East, begging for shelter and food, I would say that our culture might be doing more things right than theirs. I could just be biased because I have access to toilet paper, potable water, and electricity, which are curiosities in the muslim world.

[Ph64]

I would like to point out that many of the hundreds of thousands of muslims who rape, riot, and acid attack women in western countries are not "brown people." A good number of them have light skin. They are just as revolting.

That's the problem of trying to call Muslims/Islam a "race".
I know a girl who gets all freaked out and scared by clowns - does that make her "racist" about clowns?

TBH, calling it "islamophobia" is far, far, far more appropriate than "racist", since Islam is not a race but a belief system. Just like being against gays would be homophobia but not really racism. To attempt to use the term "racist" to describe either really weakens the meaning of the word.

This whole idea about Islamaphobia is fucking ridiculous. Since Islam is not linked to one race, and anyone could potentially convert to it, it is more like a culture. The left's fallacy of saying that criticizing cultures is unacceptable, is that every society or group of people, including the most fucked up ones have a culture. Nazi Germany had a culture, so does ISIS, so did the Antebellum South. The left criticizes these cultures, even if they do not label them as such. In fact, it is impossible to make large value judgments on a society level unless you compare and contrast your value system with those of others.

Oh, I agree, just saying the the word Islamophobia is at least representative of what they are accusing of, while the word racist is not. Not saying I buy it. Similarly you could say the left is "Naziphobic", I've heard many who feel it's perfectly fine for one of their ilk to sucker punch someone they believe is a "Nazi". Perfectly justifiable to them to violently attack someone of a "belief system" they don't approve of, but completely "wrong", "racist", etc, for someone else to attack someone of a "belief system" they support. Totally hypocritical.

[SuburbanFarmer]

I would like to point out that many of the hundreds of thousands of muslims who rape, riot, and acid attack women in western countries are not "brown people." A good number of them have light skin. They are just as revolting.

That's the problem of trying to call Muslims/Islam a "race".
I know a girl who gets all freaked out and scared by clowns - does that make her "racist" about clowns?

TBH, calling it "islamophobia" is far, far, far more appropriate than "racist", since Islam is not a race but a belief system. Just like being against gays would be homophobia but not really racism. To attempt to use the term "racist" to describe either really weakens the meaning of the word.

This whole idea about Islamaphobia is fucking ridiculous. Since Islam is not linked to one race, and anyone could potentially convert to it, it is more like a culture. The left's fallacy of saying that criticizing cultures is unacceptable, is that every society or group of people, including the most fucked up ones have a culture. Nazi Germany had a culture, so does ISIS, so did the Antebellum South. The left criticizes these cultures, even if they do not label them as such. In fact, it is impossible to make large value judgments on a society level unless you compare and contrast your value system with those of others.

Since westerners are not boarding rafts and sailing to the Middle East, begging for shelter and food, I would say that our culture might be doing more things right than theirs. I could just be biased because I have access to toilet paper, potable water, and electricity, which are curiosities in the muslim world.

You could also be biased because the west hasn't been the worlds dumping ground for a century.

[heydaralon]

That's the problem of trying to call Muslims/Islam a "race".
I know a girl who gets all freaked out and scared by clowns - does that make her "racist" about clowns?

TBH, calling it "islamophobia" is far, far, far more appropriate than "racist", since Islam is not a race but a belief system. Just like being against gays would be homophobia but not really racism. To attempt to use the term "racist" to describe either really weakens the meaning of the word.

This whole idea about Islamaphobia is fucking ridiculous. Since Islam is not linked to one race, and anyone could potentially convert to it, it is more like a culture. The left's fallacy of saying that criticizing cultures is unacceptable, is that every society or group of people, including the most fucked up ones have a culture. Nazi Germany had a culture, so does ISIS, so did the Antebellum South. The left criticizes these cultures, even if they do not label them as such. In fact, it is impossible to make large value judgments on a society level unless you compare and contrast your value system with those of others.

Since westerners are not boarding rafts and sailing to the Middle East, begging for shelter and food, I would say that our culture might be doing more things right than theirs. I could just be biased because I have access to toilet paper, potable water, and electricity, which are curiosities in the muslim world.

You could also be biased because the west hasn't been the worlds dumping ground for a century.

Couldn't have happened to a nicer, more peaceful and tolerant group of people. They give so much back to the world.

[SuburbanFarmer]

GCF: Why don't you volunteer at a soup kitchen or give a homeless person lodging in your house? I'm kind of kidding around, but it seems to me like you care about helping people, so why not try to do something locally? If you wanted to, you could let a few homeless dudes live at your house for awhile, even if it was only in your garage. It would immediately improve their quality of life. Why not adopt a child from a orphanage or foster home? These are ways you could help alleviate suffering in your area. Don't cite safety concerns for your family either. You owe it to these people. Most homeless people are perfectly nice and law abiding, its just the small number that give the rest a bad name.

You're right, I do care about people. However, I think that I can make much more of a difference by influencing the society that I pay taxes to, in order to effect that change, than sheltering 4-5 guys and calling it a day.

I saw a nature doc today, featuring a guy that's walking around the amazon, taping giant armadillos to try and "raise awareness" about them. His little interview had a point where he stared off into the distance and said 'it feels hopeless. I don't know that I'm making a difference'. I felt sorry for him wasting his life, while the forest was being burned for cash crops. Sure, he might get a couple of people to care about the issue, or even save a couple of them, but that's not an effective way to accomplish anything. What matters, is what you can do to influence the government.

Anyway, as for your idea, if I charge my family "tax" on everything they do, and hire my own security force to patrol the house, then that would make sense. But I have a government for that.

[SuburbanFarmer]

This whole idea about Islamaphobia is fucking ridiculous. Since Islam is not linked to one race, and anyone could potentially convert to it, it is more like a culture. The left's fallacy of saying that criticizing cultures is unacceptable, is that every society or group of people, including the most fucked up ones have a culture. Nazi Germany had a culture, so does ISIS, so did the Antebellum South. The left criticizes these cultures, even if they do not label them as such. In fact, it is impossible to make large value judgments on a society level unless you compare and contrast your value system with those of others.

Since westerners are not boarding rafts and sailing to the Middle East, begging for shelter and food, I would say that our culture might be doing more things right than theirs. I could just be biased because I have access to toilet paper, potable water, and electricity, which are curiosities in the muslim world.

You could also be biased because the west hasn't been the worlds dumping ground for a century.

Couldn't have happened to a nicer, more peaceful and tolerant group of people. They give so much back to the world.

If I were born into a shithole, and watching my friends and neighbors get blown to shit by 5 different advanced armies every day, you'd better believe we'd be on the road to somewhere, or blowing up the world.

[heydaralon]

GCF: Why don't you volunteer at a soup kitchen or give a homeless person lodging in your house? I'm kind of kidding around, but it seems to me like you care about helping people, so why not try to do something locally? If you wanted to, you could let a few homeless dudes live at your house for awhile, even if it was only in your garage. It would immediately improve their quality of life. Why not adopt a child from a orphanage or foster home? These are ways you could help alleviate suffering in your area. Don't cite safety concerns for your family either. You owe it to these people. Most homeless people are perfectly nice and law abiding, its just the small number that give the rest a bad name.

You're right, I do care about people. However, I think that I can make much more of a difference by influencing the society that I pay taxes to, in order to effect that change, than sheltering 4-5 guys and calling it a day.

I saw a nature doc today, featuring a guy that's walking around the amazon, taping giant armadillos to try and "raise awareness" about them. His little interview had a point where he stared off into the distance and said 'it feels hopeless. I don't know that I'm making a difference'. I felt sorry for him wasting his life, while the forest was being burned for cash crops. Sure, he might get a couple of people to care about the issue, or even save a couple of them, but that's not an effective way to accomplish anything. What matters, is what you can do to influence the government.

Anyway, as for your idea, if I charge my family "tax" on everything they do, and hire my own security force to patrol the house, then that would make sense. But I have a government for that.

The tax, family analogy would work better if your family paid you taxes to shelter and protect them, but instead of spending the money on rent and an alarm system, you spent it all on someone who lives in a section 8 apartment in the ghetto. Thats pretty much what the EU is doing right now.