“More Democrats Should Be Calling for the Repeal of the Second Amendment”

[SuburbanFarmer]

Checkmate.


It's almost as if both parties were encouraging people to vote against their own interests...

[DBTrek]

Maybe you should start your own thread for “Looky here, the constant full-court press by Democrats to eviscerate American’s rights has occasionally been supported or even sponsored by Republicans”.

This thread already has a topic.
Plus your mundane observation is common knowledge and doesn’t really require much discussion.

[jediuser598]

Checkmate.


It's almost as if both parties were encouraging people to vote against their own interests...

Right?

But wait, we need another thread on how terrible liberals are! Quick, someone's speaking reason!

As if I'm a moron for saying "Hey, look, it's not just liberals."

[Zlaxer]

Ok, Jedi - put forth your best argument that it's OK for the Courts and government executive officers to pass laws infringing the 2nd Amd...I'll wait..


O, and please address as many counter points as possible....

Tell me where it's ok for the Courts and government executives to pass laws infringing the 1st, and 4th? The whole argument here is that both sides are infringing our rights, and continue to do so, but myopic people on this forum continue to spend most of the time on just one side of the argument, as if one side is much more guilty than the other.

Want an argument, a field for our sport? How about this one:

Who is responsible for the passage of the Patriot Act? That act eviscerated the 4th. (Do we need to debate this point?)

Let me link to you the vote totals: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/107-2001/s313

The Senate:
The one Nay: Feingold, Russell

The House:
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/107-2001/h398

And of course the President signed it into a law, he's a Republican.

Still, a bipartisan effort.

Seriously - where's your arguments relating to the second amendment? As for your arguments relating to the infringement of the 1rst and 4th - that plays right into my earlier point to DB - Americans no longer deserve freedom....

So do you believe in the 2nd amendment as written or not? and if the later - make your arguments.

[DBTrek]

“Right? It’s like, in a discussion of serial killers I’m the guy who has to point at shoplifters and be like ‘hey, that’s a crime too!’”

You’re spot on about being average.
At most.

[de officiis]

I think he represents the average....

Your making my points for me Just read your own words....

YHe’s just an empty vessel manipulated by agendas he doesn’t understand. Odds of the jedis of the world determining shit is precisely 0%. Tools are used to build, but they don’t actually create anything themselves.

I do represent the average. Most people don't realize this due to the what's it called? "Lake woebegone effect," but most of you are average too. The world is made for average people. You calling me average, isn't an insult. I own it, instead of falsely believing, like you and many others, that "oh no, I'm at least well to the right of the bell curve." Got any proof of that? No? Ok, until further proof is provided, just going to go with "average." Or in the case of DBtrek, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" so you're going to have to provide *a lot* of evidence for that one. He proves he's a myopic dullard on the daily.

I thought we were all unique and special.

[jediuser598]

Ok, Jedi - put forth your best argument that it's OK for the Courts and government executive officers to pass laws infringing the 2nd Amd...I'll wait..


O, and please address as many counter points as possible....

Tell me where it's ok for the Courts and government executives to pass laws infringing the 1st, and 4th? The whole argument here is that both sides are infringing our rights, and continue to do so, but myopic people on this forum continue to spend most of the time on just one side of the argument, as if one side is much more guilty than the other.

Want an argument, a field for our sport? How about this one:

Who is responsible for the passage of the Patriot Act? That act eviscerated the 4th. (Do we need to debate this point?)

Let me link to you the vote totals: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/107-2001/s313

The Senate:
The one Nay: Feingold, Russell

The House:
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/107-2001/h398

And of course the President signed it into a law, he's a Republican.

Still, a bipartisan effort.

Seriously - where's your arguments relating to the second amendment? As for your arguments relating to the infringement of the 1rst and 4th - that plays right into my earlier point to DB - Americans no longer deserve freedom....

So do you believe in the 2nd amendment as written or not? and if the later - make your arguments.

I believe in the second amendment as DC vs Heller puts it.
For your reference: https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZS.html

In fact, I believe that once you do your time, you should be allowed to own firearms again, all rights should be restored to you. (Felons should be allowed to own guns). I also believe that having a mental disability shouldn't disqualify you from gun ownership.

[jediuser598]

I think he represents the average....

Your making my points for me Just read your own words....

I do represent the average. Most people don't realize this due to the what's it called? "Lake woebegone effect," but most of you are average too. The world is made for average people. You calling me average, isn't an insult. I own it, instead of falsely believing, like you and many others, that "oh no, I'm at least well to the right of the bell curve." Got any proof of that? No? Ok, until further proof is provided, just going to go with "average." Or in the case of DBtrek, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" so you're going to have to provide *a lot* of evidence for that one. He proves he's a myopic dullard on the daily.

I thought we were all unique and special.

As much as sand is unique and special, as much as ants are unique and special. Most of us are an ordinary kind of special. Let me ask you this, you think an average person could pass the bar? The one that you took?

[Speaker to Animals]

You are a unique, special snowflake. Just like everybody else.

[jediuser598]

You are a unique, special snowflake. Just like everybody else.

Yup, I'm working on this think piece about the capabilities of the average person. You really look at it, why be snide to the average person, why see that as a bad thing? There's this belief that being average, is bad, when in reality, most of us are. Average people fill the world, and this general disdain for them, for ourselves, isn't very constructive. (to borrow Smitty's) To wit, what can we do with average? What can we build with "average." That's what we have the most of, might as well use it, right?

We're waiting for Mr. 150+ IQ leader of ours who will lead us to the golden age when instead we should be relying on the average people around us.