Michael Flynn Has Been Charged With Lying To The FBI

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Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:31 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:and American esprit de corps.
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I'll defer to your expertise on that, it's certainly not impossible for America to break her own Army, she's done it before, late Vietnam War, post Hamburger Hill, that was a total disaster area, state of collapse for all intents and purposes.

On the bright side, it rebounded pretty nicely to say the least, like a phoenix from the ashes.
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Post by clubgop » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:12 pm

Kath wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:In case you folks missed it, the military has had about all it's gonna take of your endless wars while you lot sit on the couch.
Damn i hope so. Let's payforit.
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Post by clubgop » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:14 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:Just to add some context, when I got picked up for promotion, points were at 350 and over 600 scouts were promoted.

http://www.armystudyguide.com/content/P ... oints.html
Isn't 15 points like a college course? Maxing out a PT test?

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Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:54 pm

I don't get how that points scoring thing works, in my day, the CO decided who got promoted and who didn't, at battalion level. You had to have the qualifications obviously, in terms of taking the course and being current on everything, but otherwise, it was all within the regiment and CO had your career in the palm of his hand.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:51 am

clubgop wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:Just to add some context, when I got picked up for promotion, points were at 350 and over 600 scouts were promoted.

http://www.armystudyguide.com/content/P ... oints.html
Isn't 15 points like a college course? Maxing out a PT test?
It's more like having a pulse.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:05 am

Smitty-48 wrote:I don't get how that points scoring thing works, in my day, the CO decided who got promoted and who didn't, at battalion level. You had to have the qualifications obviously, in terms of taking the course and being current on everything, but otherwise, it was all within the regiment and CO had your career in the palm of his hand.
Points are set by the army according to needs of the army. If the army needs NCOs, points go down until the positions are filled, then they go back up. They are broken down by MOS, rank, and zone.

For instance, you can set the points for an infantry corporal in the primary zone lower than secondary zone if you want to promote younger NCOs, or vice versa.

Promotion eligibility is determined at battalion level promotion boards, but big army says who it wants, so you can stay promotable but not promoted indefinitely if the army doesn't need more NCOs in your job.
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Re: Michael Flynn Has Been Charged With Lying To The FBI

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:44 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:I don't get how that points scoring thing works, in my day, the CO decided who got promoted and who didn't, at battalion level. You had to have the qualifications obviously, in terms of taking the course and being current on everything, but otherwise, it was all within the regiment and CO had your career in the palm of his hand.
Points are set by the army according to needs of the army. If the army needs NCOs, points go down until the positions are filled, then they go back up. They are broken down by MOS, rank, and zone.

For instance, you can set the points for an infantry corporal in the primary zone lower than secondary zone if you want to promote younger NCOs, or vice versa.

Promotion eligibility is determined at battalion level promotion boards, but big army says who it wants, so you can stay promotable but not promoted indefinitely if the army doesn't need more NCOs in your job.
OK, I get it now. Ridiculously bureaucratic of course, military as a jobs program uber alles, as if some central authority in Washington knows how many corporals they need in the Army for the purposes of fighting a war, when in fact all they really care about is the careerist pecking order and ticking boxes for the sake of ticking boxes, Army Brass make work, and of course they never ever come to the conclusion that they have exponentially too many Generals, nosiree.

It's even more ridiculous here, Canada has enough Generals to command the People's Liberation Army of China, for what amounts to a single reinforced division in the field, it's just a senior officer public sector pension factory, civil servants in uniform.

The Armies of the West, are good for nothing but the parade square, it's no wonder that goat herders can kick our asses.

And please, don't say "the draft", because that would just make it exponentially worse, that's the ultimate in military social engineering make work, the welfare state in uniform.

We're getting to the point where the expendable mercenaries of the French Foreign Legion are practically the only real soldiers left in the Western World. We should stop pretending that we are maintaining any real armies at all and just turn everything over to the intelligence agencies and the air force. Return all these make work army budgets to the taxpayer says me, I want my money back.

If you ask the Luvvies who rule here "what is the army for?" all they will say is "UN Peacekeeping", in other words "armed virtue signalling", methinks we can dispense with that, thank you.
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Post by C-Mag » Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:05 pm

Tucker Carlson just busted the FBI. CHERYL Mills and Huma Abedin both lied to the FBI...... the FBI did nothing to them.
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C-Mag wrote:Tucker Carlson just busted the FBI. CHERYL Mills and Huma Abedin both lied to the FBI...... the FBI did nothing to them.
Dude they weren't coercing testimony in the Clinton investigation. They were offering immunity and the destruction of evidence just to sit down and talk to people.
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Post by kybkh » Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:54 pm

Top Clinton aide Cheryl Mills granted partial immunity in email investigation
A source says the immunity offer came after the FBI interviewed Mills when investigators asked to go through her computers to see if it still contained classified information.


The newly disclosed information brings to five the number of individuals known to have received some form of immunity in connection with the FBI probe, which ended with the bureau recommending that no charges be brought against Clinton or her aides for mishandling classified information.
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