You know what I love? The State

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Re: You know what I love? The State

Post by Hastur » Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:33 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:22 am
If Sweden can figure out how to inculcate a sense of duty into a bunch of malcontents, please let us know.
We do it to a majority. About 70% are integrated after two generations. The problem is that we need 85% participation for our model to work, and we can't afford the first generation where today 80% are a net loss to the economy.
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Re: You know what I love? The State

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:35 am

Hastur wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:33 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:22 am
If Sweden can figure out how to inculcate a sense of duty into a bunch of malcontents, please let us know.
We do it to a majority. About 70% are integrated after two generations. The problem is that we need 85% participation for our model to work, and we can't afford the first generation where today 80% are a net loss to the economy.
We're Americans, we can make it work with fewer than 85%... because we are tenacious like that.

Now, about getting it to 70%...
HAIL!

Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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Re: You know what I love? The State

Post by Hastur » Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:52 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:35 am
Hastur wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:33 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:22 am
If Sweden can figure out how to inculcate a sense of duty into a bunch of malcontents, please let us know.
We do it to a majority. About 70% are integrated after two generations. The problem is that we need 85% participation for our model to work, and we can't afford the first generation where today 80% are a net loss to the economy.
We're Americans, we can make it work with fewer than 85%... because we are tenacious like that.

Now, about getting it to 70%...
First you need a State with plenty of resources. Then set up government programs aimed at education for adults, retraining into high demand jobs, complementary education for people with a foreign degree, so they can work in your country. Then incentivize hiring by lowering things like payroll taxes for the group that needs be integrated. Maybe pay some of the paycheck for a while. Make sure subsidies are set up in a way, so they don't discourage starting to earn money.
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Re: You know what I love? The State

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:07 am

To easy.

There has to be a catch.
HAIL!

Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
-Hwen

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Re: You know what I love? The State

Post by Hastur » Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:24 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:07 am
To easy.

There has to be a catch.
It is hard to minimize waste. There are a lot of grifters and imposters who want to get in on the action when big government programs are put in place. Getting the civil servants to do actual creative work instead of just checking boxes is also a challenge. Regulation and responsibility.
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Re: You know what I love? The State

Post by Hastur » Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:31 am

The best solution for Sweden would be to stop the immigration of so-called refugees. The 1951 Refugee Convention and the 1967 Protocol in particular has to be scrapped. That system doesn't work anymore. It was set up to handle the refugees after WWII and after that the people fleeing across the Iron curtain. It was never meant to incentivize mass migration from "Shit Hole Countries".
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Re: You know what I love? The State

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:04 am

If only humanity could devise some mechanism by which to punish or limit corruption in the State without completely destroying it.

Ah well... :loads his AK and walks out into the industrial hellscape:
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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