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DBTrek
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by DBTrek » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:15 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Still waiting for someone to explain how no longer being able to force your employee to work 24/7 stops that employee from sucking Mammon's dick as much as they want.
I worked 18 hr days all last week at the BJC, made about $5k and slept about 4hrs a night. Nobody was able to stop me, except myself...
/shrug.
You've never established how people are "forced" to write email in any circumstance, much less the bizarre circumstance you've decided to become emotionally invested over.
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by Montegriffo » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:29 pm
DBTrek wrote:Montegriffo wrote:
Still waiting for someone to explain how no longer being able to force your employee to work 24/7 stops that employee from sucking Mammon's dick as much as they want.
I worked 18 hr days all last week at the BJC, made about $5k and slept about 4hrs a night. Nobody was able to stop me, except myself...
/shrug.
You've never established how people are "forced" to write email in any circumstance, much less the bizarre circumstance you've decided to become emotionally invested over.
They were asked to read emails (and presumably respond to them) in their own time.
I mean I get your point, workers rights are bad for capitalism.
I asked my crew to work long days but was able to pay them well. If we had all stopped after 48 hrs we would have earned less and the jugglers would have had to go to the vegan burger stall instead of eating real food.
Everyone had the right to say ''fuck you Monte'' after 48hrs without losing their job but nobody did.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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by DBTrek » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:32 pm
You don’t understand capitalism if you equate it with slave labor.
That’s actually socialism, where half or more of the fruits of your labor are stolen so the state can put your money to the
correct use. Slave for the state, ol’ boy, and kept mentally in check by simpleton ruses like email laws to protect you from “capitalists”.
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by Montegriffo » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:44 pm
Right to free speech = freedom
Right to guns = freedom
Rights for employees = socialism
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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by K@th » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:49 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Rights for employees = socialism
There exists no such thing as exempt employees in the UK? The Prime Minister works 8-5, M-F and if shit gets real between those times, UK is SOL?
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by DBTrek » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:49 pm
Word fraud. Dictating to an employer that they will continue to pay you, and keep you employed, whether or not you respond to email as your job requires, isn’t a “right”. No more than owning a slave is a right.
Blacks aren’t our slaves.
Employers aren’t your gravy train.
Another man doesn’t owe you his labor.
Another man doesn’t owe you a career or job security.
Your head is all muddled up with doublespeak, weasel words, and false definitions so it’s easy for you to jump to erroneous conclusions. In fact, you’ve been trained to do so.
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by nmoore63 » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:50 pm
Montegriffo wrote:Right to free speech = freedom
Right to guns = freedom
Rights for employees = socialism
Do what you want = freedom
Do what you want = freedom
Forcing others to do what you want /= freedom
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by K@th » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:52 pm
I've answered 4 emails in the last 52 minutes. Hmmmm..... I feel violated.
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by BjornP » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:02 pm
Montegriffo wrote:Right to free speech = freedom
Right to guns = freedom
Rights for employees = socialism
While DB's framing of the issue as your supposed "socialism" versus capitalism is 95% certain to be wrong, so is your likening of people working outside of office hours as a "right of employees" issue. What matters is people get paid for their service.
What excatly is it you're imagining
prevents someone getting paid for their service, just because they are called to respond to an email in their off hours?
Fame is not flattery. Respect is not agreement.
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by Speaker to Animals » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:04 pm
Kath wrote:Montegriffo wrote:
Rights for employees = socialism
There exists no such thing as exempt employees in the UK? The Prime Minister works 8-5, M-F and if shit gets real between those times, UK is SOL?
I have worked with them. They answer emails at most hours.
Monty has just worked wages his whole life and doesn't know about the professional world, whereas most professionals worked for wages at least once.